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Re: making our meetings more worth the time/expense (was: Re: setting a goal for an inclusive IETF)

2013-07-31 07:49:02
There are occasions when presentations are appropriate, but they should be the 
exception rather than the rule or default assumption.

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On Jul 31, 2013, at 1:52 PM, Abdussalam Baryun 
<abdussalambaryun(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> wrote:

IMHO, The presenters are MUST, but the time channel for presenting is the 
problem or boring factor. I mentioned before that we need short presentations 
5 minutes, and more discussions.
 
AB


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Keith Moore 
<moore(_at_)network-heretics(_dot_)com> wrote:

On Jul 30, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Bob Braden wrote:

On 7/30/2013 9:35 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:

Easy fix: 'slide' (well, nobody uses real slides anymore :-) rationing.

E.g. if a presenter has a 10 minute slot, maximum of 3 'slides'
(approximately; maybe less). That will force the slides to be 'discussion
frameworks', rather than 'detailed overview of the design'.

     Noel

Noel,

I tried the 3 slide limit in the End2end Research Group some years ago, 
and it did not work very well.
Presenters just can't discipline themselves that much, no matter how hard 
you beat on them.

Maybe the first step is to stop having "presenters".

Keith