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Re: Of governments and representation (was: Montevideo Statement)

2013-10-11 15:19:32
On Oct 11, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Jorge Amodio <jmamodio(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> wrote:

Just to start, there is no clear consensus of what "Internet Governance" 
means and entails.

You are correct.  The term "Internet Governance" is a term of art, and a poor 
one
at that.  It is the term that governments like to use, and in fact, in 2005 
several of 
them got together at the United Nations-initiated World Summit on the 
Information 
Society (WSIS) and came up with the following definition:

"Internet governance is the development and application by Governments, the 
private sector and civil society, in their respective roles, of shared 
principles, norms, rules, decision-making procedures, and programmes that shape 
the evolution and use of the Internet."  
<http://www.wgig.org/docs/WGIGREPORT.pdf>

I happen to hate the term "Internet Governance", but its use has become a 
common 
as shorthand for the discussions of governments expressing their needs and 
desires 
with respect to the Internet, its related institutions, and civil society.

It might not be necessary for the IETF to be involved (if it so chooses), but 
I'm not
certain that leaving it to ISOC would make sense if/when the discussion moves 
into 
areas such as structures for managing delegated registries of IETF-defined 
protocols
(i.e. protocols, names, numbers)

In your particular case as President and CEO of ARIN, clearly you "lead" that 
organization but it does not make you representative of the Internet or its 
users. I can't find anywhere in the Bylaws and Articles of Incorporation of 
ARIN the word "Governance."

Nobody will deny any of the alleged "leaders" to participate in any meeting, 
conference, event, in their individual capacities, but NONE has any 
representation of the whole Internet.

Full agreement there...  No one has any representation of the entire Internet, 
and 
we should oppose the establishment of any structures that might aspire to such.

Do we really want to create a "government" for the Internet ? How do you 
propose to select people to be representatives for all the sectors ? 

I do not, and expect others on this list feel the same.  However, it is likely 
that more
folks need to participate to make sure that such things don't happen.

And in particular how do you propose to select an IETF representative and 
who/how it's going to give her/him its mandate to represent the organization 
on other forums ?

That is the essential question of this discussion, and hence the reason for my 
email.

I'd recommend that the IETF select leaders whose integrity you trust, you 
provide them 
with documents of whatever principles the IETF considers important and how it 
views 
it relations with other Internet institutions (could be developed via Internet 
Drafts) and 
ask them to report back as frequently as possible.   Alternatively, the IETF 
could opt
to not participate in such discussions at all, and deal with any developments 
after the 
fact (an option only if there is sufficient faith that the current models, 
structures, and 
relationships of the IETF are inviolate.)

FYI,
/John