The problem is not what actually each person said but what "they" say it was
said and gets recorded into a statement that has no weight and it is not
representative of the entire community.
-Jorge
On Oct 12, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Stephen Farrell
<stephen(_dot_)farrell(_at_)cs(_dot_)tcd(_dot_)ie> wrote:
Hiya,
On 10/12/2013 01:02 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
The thing is that I (and I suspect much of the IETF) feel that such I*
leadership attendees need to make it _very_ clear at such events that they
are
there to present (as best they can) the views of the IETF as a whole, but
they
cannot _commit_ the IETF to anything: only the IETF acting as a whole can do
that.
So fwiw I was there as Jari's sidekick-de-jour and I can confirm
that both Jari and Russ repeatedly made it clear that anything
substantive needed IETF community consensus. I realise that's not
as good as a recording or set of minutes, but there ya go.
Cheers,
S.