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RE: Separate ADs roles from IESG

2013-10-20 15:13:03
A better management/technical split that I can see would be exemplified by the 
recent proposal of an anti-harassment statement (q.v.).

At the moment it is the IESG's responsibility to produce such statements and it 
is currently the IESG's responsibility to hear appeals etc.  That *seems* like 
a very different task from reviewing documents or keeping a WG within charter 
and working to its millstones.

Adrian

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Subject: Re: Separate ADs roles from IESG

The obvious risk if one separates WG management from review is that one
could easily get the situation where the manager, in working with the
WG, says that the document needs X, Y, and not Z.  And then the reviewer
says "needs Z".  And there are more extreme versions of this.
Currently, the ability for the managing AD to say "no, this won't pass
muster" is part of his management tool.  If he is not the reviewer, he
seems to have lost an important tool.  I hope I am missing something
that would make this sort of approach workable.