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Re: Last Call: Change the status of ADSP (RFC 5617) to Historic

2013-11-20 17:00:44
so document it in a RFC - not a big task if the info is already there

future potential users might be able to find a RFC  - they would not be able to 
find a string of messages
on a mailing list

fwiw - this is not a new issue for me - going back to RFC 1923 I have felt that 
it is a must to tell
people why such a change is made

Scott

Scott Bradner

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On Nov 20, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Dave Crocker <dhc(_at_)dcrocker(_dot_)net> wrote:

On 11/20/2013 2:48 PM, Bradner, Scott wrote:
it would seem to me to be a dereliction of duty to not publish a document 
that says why such a change
is made -

     if ADSP is dangerous then say so in a way that people can understand

but if it is just competition to another protocol it does not  seem to paint 
the IETF in a good light to
not let the market decide what technology to use - i.e., I would not support 
the change
if it is just to benefit DMARC without there being a actual reason to not 
use ADSP


Scott,

Before offering conspiracy theories, perhaps you could read (or read more 
carefully) the considerable IETF mailing list transcript that explains very 
thoroughly why the protocol should be deprecated.

And if that's too much effort, try the link that Barry provided:

  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/status-change-adsp-rfc5617-to-historic/

And since even that seems to take too much effort a concise summary, yet 
again:  The protocol isn't used.  Someone trying to rely on a protocol that 
isn't used will suffer somewhere between zero and negative utility.

As for dereliction... wow.  Perhaps you can explain why the existing and 
easily-searchable public archive is insufficient and the effort to produce an 
obscure RFC that will likely never be read is better?


d/


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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
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