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Re: [Internet Policy] Fwd: Re: root justification for net neutrality?
2014-06-02 09:43:36
I foresee it being optional.
Some will preffer it being free , while some who can will prefer to pay for it.
A free sevice will have its cons while a paid service will center on its pros
i.e value for quality.
Focus should primariry be at this point internet for all.
Sent using 100% recycled electrons on a tiny keyboard. Please excuse typos and
brevity
On Jun 1, 2014, at 6:53 PM, Arnaud AMELINA <amelnaud(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
wrote:
I totally agree with you Mohammed, if we do not want a bicéphal internet with
a Private party and another who will be free with perpetual war, as we are
seeing at the softwares, better leave things as they are. Each finding its
interest, without encroaching too far on the other's.
Arnaud A. A. AMELINA
ISOC-TOGO
West Africa
2014-06-01 21:13 GMT+00:00 mohammed serrhini <serrhini(_at_)mail(_dot_)ru>:
the internet access must be free, as the oxygen breathing, the proposition
that Internet could be provided as a public service and funded through taxes
is not very correct because most part of the world population suffers from
taxes or already are overtaxed, all of us know about the quality of public
services, nowadays most public services are privatized. in the end internet
services will be reprivatized again.
I think there should be a tax on each internet financial transaction not on
the client side but on the side of companies, we all days heard about
internet money and the expononcial number of bilion.
peering is greet solution for reducing cost of internet.
Mohammed Serrhini
Morocco chapter
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От кого: David Collier-Brown <davec-b(_at_)rogers(_dot_)com>
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Дата: Fri, 30 May 2014 20:38:32 -0400
Тема: Re: [Internet Policy] root justification for net neutrality?
May I speculate that access is cheap enough that it can be treated as a
universal good, much like light-houses.
Universals are beneficial to everyone, but cost so little per benefit
that it's hard to figure out how to charge for them. Lighthouses are
the classic example, and are the very first thing that the government of
the United States built...
--dave
On 05/30/2014 11:21 AM, Richard Hill wrote:
Veni,
That is great, but then I guess that my access is being subsidized by
Bulgarian users. Very generous of them.
Best,
Richard
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Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Internet Policy] root justification for net neutrality?
Hi.
See below slight correction.
On 05/30/14 10:04, Richard Hill wrote:
I agree with Gary and partly with Nick.
Upstream service providers are already paying to connect to the
Internet, but the question is whether they should pay more when what
they do imposes capacity upgrades downstream.
TANSTAAFL (if you don't know that acronym, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanstaafl )
In the end, it is always us, the people who pay. The question is how
and how much. The Internet could be provided as a public service and
funded through taxes (or partly funded through taxes), or it can be
funded by flat-rate payments from users (the system most commonly
used today), or it could be funded by data-volume based payments from
users (a system used in some places), or it could be funded by some
combination of payments from users and upstream suppliers (often
called OTT).
Not always, Richard.
Come to Sofia, Bulgaria, and login at any of the thousands free wi-fi
locations. No passwords, no registration, not requirements (like in
other EU countries) to give your personal data. Yes, the internet
access could be also free.
--
Best,
Veni Markovski
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