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Re: Community Input on change to the Trust Legal Provisions to accommodate the inclusion of RFC Templates

2015-01-27 14:36:17
Hi,

Question: have you guys considered this scenario? There are a number of
pre-5378 RFCs that appear to include templates (just search the
datatracker for the word ³template²--and there may be more).  If one of
these templates gets updated in an I-D and RFC, the trust may lack the
rights to provide a license to change or fill in the template.

A similar situation is covered in the TLP 4.0 by section 6.c.iii.
However, the situation is more severe here, because a template¹s main (or
only?) purpose is to be modified (by being filled in).

I think it may be worthwhile to document that the proposed language and
mechanism below is incompatible with updates of pre 5378 templates, unless
the necessary rights for the pre-5378 template I-D were obtained by the
trust.  In other words, the language and mechanism proposed below MUST NOT
be used for templates based on templates published in pre-05378 RFCs,
unless the trust has obtain a license under the necessary rights from the
relevant right holders (authors of pre-RFC5378 RFCs or, in some cases,
their employers).

Stephan

On 1/27/15, 06:23, "Tobias Gondrom" 
<tobias(_dot_)gondrom(_at_)gondrom(_dot_)org> wrote:

Dear IETFers,

The IETF Trust has been requested by the IESG and RFC Editor to provide
a license in cases
where RFCs contain Templates. The Trustees propose modifying the Trust
Legal Provisions
(TLP) based upon a need to extract and fill in text from RFCs that
contain Templates.  E.g.
the Internet-Draft draft-ietf-sidr-cps-04 contains a Template for others
to copy and modify.
Under the normal TLP provisions this would be considered a derivative
work and not permitted.

The current TLP is here:
<http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info/IETF-TLP-4.pdf>.

The Trustees¹ response is a proposed change to the TLP that addresses
the issue for this and
future RFCs.  The change enables specific text in an RFC that is
designated as a Template to be
subject to a new provision in the TLP that says that extraction and
modification are authorized.

The Trustees are considering the following language changes to the TLP
to permit the modification
of RFC Templates:

9.  Template Text

a.  Certain RFCs may contain text designated as ³Template Text² by the
inclusion of the following
legend in the introduction to the RFC:

    ³This RFC contains text intended for use as a template as
designated below by the markers
<BEGIN TEMPLATE TEXT> and <END TEMPLATE TEXT> or other clear
designation.  Such
Template Text is subject to the provisions of Section 9(b) of the Trust
Legal Provisions.²

b.   In addition to the other rights granted under the TLP with respect
to each RFC, the Trust grants
to all interested persons a non-exclusive, royalty-free, worldwide,
perpetual right and license under
all copyrights and rights of authors to make, reproduce, publish and
distribute modifications of the
Template Text (e.g., to insert specific information in place of blanks
or place-holders), and reproduce,
modify and distribute such modified Template Text.

We would like hear your thoughts on changing the Trust Legal Provisions
to accommodate the inclusion
of RFC Templates. Comments will be considered that are received through
25th February.

Thank you for your assistance.

Tobias Gondrom
Chair, IETF Trust



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