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Re: [GROW] Genart Telechat review: draft-ietf-grow-filtering-threats-07

2015-08-21 10:59:21
Hi,

Jari the points you have made are supported by the work done in GROW on this 
draft.  Specifically, #1 there is consensus behind the draft, time was spent 
making sure it covered the right points which had consensus.  On #2 it does 
seem that the confusion comes from the use of the first person in the draft.  
By changing the grammar to definitive statements makes the document stronger, 
and continues to accurately represent the consensus reached during the work on 
the text.

An example of the changes would be:

Change:
"The authors note that due to the distributed nature and restricted visibility 
of the steering of BGP policies, this second step is deemed to not identify the 
origin of the problem with guaranteed accuracy.”

To:
"Due to the distributed nature and restricted visibility of the steering of BGP 
policies, this second step does not identify the origin of the problem with 
guaranteed accuracy."


Peter
 



On 8/20/15, 3:34 PM, "GROW on behalf of Jari Arkko" 
<grow-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org on behalf of 
jari(_dot_)arkko(_at_)piuha(_dot_)net> wrote:

After some more staring of the data tracker settings, you are of course 
completely correct,
Robert :-) The document is marked as having IETF consensus setting, so the 
text that you
quoted will get inserted into the RFC.

Pardon my mistake in assuming it wasn’t.

On the IESG call we had a discussion about this issue. We saw two separate 
questions:

1) Substance: Is there a consensus behind the document’s recommendations? The 
sponsoring AD
and the IESG believes so.

2) Editorial: Is it appropriate to use the “the authors recommend…” form for 
IETF-level
consensus statements? The sponsoring AD took your comment about the formulation
(also recommended by other ADs) and will work with the author to revise the 
document.
However, this matter is indeed editorial, i.e., a Comment rather than a 
Discuss level
requirement from the IESG.

So the document will be approved, after some editorial modifications, and will 
become
an RFC.

Jari

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