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Re: Venue Announcement for IETFs 98, 99, 102 and 111

2016-01-07 10:34:32
Hi Ray,


On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Ray Pelletier <rpelletier(_at_)isoc(_dot_)org> 
wrote:
John,

On Jan 6, 2016, at 6:32 PM, John C Klensin <john-ietf(_at_)jck(_dot_)com> 
wrote:



--On Tuesday, January 05, 2016 13:06 -0800 IETF Administrative
Director <iad(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org> wrote:

The IAOC is pleased to announce the selection of venues for the
following IEF meetings:
...
IETF 111:  San Francisco  July 25 - 30 2021

Ray,

Reflecting on the current discussion of hotels and observing
that several people have expressed concern about statements like
"can't do anything to change the policies or affect that date or
location because we are working three years out", does this
imply that you and the IAOC are making commitments we could not
change if we wanted to (even if circumstances changed) 5 1/2
years out.   I'm all in favor of pinning down dates well in
advance but, when we start talking about commitments to
"venues", it is a source of some small anxiety.


Thanks for raising the issue.  We always evaluate the risks when
entering into contracts, especially hotel contracts into the future.

We feel very comfortable with the risk for the meeting in San
Francisco in 2021 at the Hilton with the combination of attrition,
block reduction, and cancellation provisions that are in the contract
and the multi-event agreement we have with the Hilton.

In my 10 years the Internet Society has never paid for a shortfall
in filling IETF meeting guest rooms to which we have committed.

The issue is not filling IETF meeting guest rooms to which we have committed.
The issue is those rooms go away in one day. While with IEEE, even
after one month, you can still get a room at the venue.

Wishing you a very happy new year.

Behcet

My best for a happy and healthy new year.

Ray






   john