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Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org

2016-11-10 19:19:54
Hi John,
At 05:53 10-11-2016, John C Klensin wrote:
That is consistent with the point I was trying to make.  Part of
what I understood you to say was that the role, as currently
defined, was taking up too much time as compared to value and
your and Melinda to suggest that there weren't a lot of cases in
which it was likely to be particularly effective.  I think there

As this is an experiment I provided some data so that Jari can draw a conclusion. The time taken was more about providing information for the next person volunteering for the task, or a similar task.

is still potential value in the general concept and in
mechanisms that were lighter-weight and more about focusing
discussions, reducing repetition, and educating participants
than the Sergeant at Arms procedures.   If so, or we want to
carry out _that_ experiment, the right next step is to reduce
the workload to be more proportionate to both need and acutal
value.

The experiment was light-weight, i.e avoid getting to Sergeant at Arms procedures. Thanks for commenting about the potential value in the general concept.

That said, the one thing I wish you had done but didn't (and may
not have had the mandate to do) was to post those summaries with
enough confidence, and presumption of community backing, to be
able to say "these subthreads have been noted, continuing to
post on them without adding anything new will be considered
disruptive and turned over to the Sergeant at Arms".

I would be going beyond the experiment if I attempted to restrict a subscriber from posting more messages which did not contain new information. It would also be at odds with the experiment being light-weight.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy