Re: IPv10.
2016-11-12 19:32:47
Working in organisation who is submitting proposals into those EU
initiatives for about 20 years I can say:
Keep working on IPv6 deployment and do not use those as argument to stop
working on IPv6.
Michal
P.S: Some of NGI/NGN (specially for video) mean: let's do brilliant new IPv4
P.P.S: Some of NGI/NGN mean: let's do circuit switching (sometimes over
http over IPv4 :-) )
On 13/11/2016 10:25, Peter Tattam wrote:
While I have yet to see any fleshy details, it does sound similar to
my idea which got thrown out (IPv6 targets direct from IPv4 using
header options and not tunnelling) I believe I still have a bet to
collect regarding IPv6 uptake though ;) Peter
On Sun., 13 Nov. 2016 at 8:51 am, Brian E Carpenter
<brian(_dot_)e(_dot_)carpenter(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com <mailto:brian(_dot_)e(_dot_)carpenter(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>> wrote:
I believe it can all be safely ignored, but it does seem like a silly
waste of resources that they bother to work on it at all.
Regards
Brian
On 13/11/2016 09:40, Latif LADID [IPv6-based Internet] wrote:
> The next one to look into is the new NGI initiative of the European
> Commission to start working on new Internet protocols, although
this is just
> research, after the failure of the Future Internet research
program and GENI
> in the US (though Openflow was funded at Stanford) so not really
a threat
> but could be used to put some sanity in researchers in quest of
inventing
> something new :-)
>
>
https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/next-generation-internet-initi
> ative
>
> https://twitter.com/NGI4eu
>
> Latif
>
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> [IPv6-based Internet]
> Sent: 12 November 2016 21:27
> To: 'Scott O. Bradner' <sob(_at_)sobco(_dot_)com
<mailto:sob(_at_)sobco(_dot_)com>>;
'IETF discussion list'
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> Subject: RE: IPv10.
>
> The IETF/3GPP endorsement agreement can be used to stop them as
it clearly
> states that ETSI should not be involved in IETF work but just
endorse it.
>
> Latif
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott O. Bradner [mailto:sob(_at_)sobco(_dot_)com
<mailto:sob(_at_)sobco(_dot_)com>]
> Sent: 12 November 2016 21:06
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> Cc: Latif LADID [IPv6-based Internet] <latif(_at_)ladid(_dot_)lu
<mailto:latif(_at_)ladid(_dot_)lu>>; ipv6(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
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> Subject: Re: IPv10.
>
> but consistent?
>
> Scott
>
>> On Nov 12, 2016, at 3:04 PM, Brian E Carpenter
> <brian(_dot_)e(_dot_)carpenter(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com
<mailto:brian(_dot_)e(_dot_)carpenter(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Latif,
>>
>> On 12/11/2016 20:17, Latif LADID [IPv6-based Internet] wrote:
>>> Jon Postel will swizel in his grave if v10 is not assigned by
IANA first.
>>> Let's not confuse the market. A working group at ETSI has been
formed
>>> 6 months ago called NGP ( Next Gereation Protocols) lashing at
v4 and
>>> v6 to invent a new one.
>>
>> How incredibly foolish of them.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>> Also the ITU will jump on this one to occupy the v10 space :-)
>>>
>>> Latif
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
<mailto:ipv6-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>] On Behalf Of Brian E
>>> Carpenter
>>> Sent: 12 November 2016 02:43
>>> To: Randy Bush <randy(_at_)psg(_dot_)com
<mailto:randy(_at_)psg(_dot_)com>>
>>> Cc: Khaled Omar <eng(_dot_)khaled(_dot_)omar(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com
<mailto:eng(_dot_)khaled(_dot_)omar(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com>>;
ipv6(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
<mailto:ipv6(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>;
>>> ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org <mailto:ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
>>> Subject: Re: IPv10.
>>>
>>> On 12/11/2016 14:15, Randy Bush wrote:
>>>>> Right now it seems that you have got a solution proposal for a
>>>>> problem, that is IMHO not very clearly described.
>>>>
>>>> how about ipv4 and ipv6 are incompatible on the wire and this has
>>>> created a multi-decade ipv6 charlie foxtrot?
>>>
>>> Yes, I suggest mentioning that to Vint, Bob and a few others
in 1977,
>>> so that they can design IPv4 with extensible addresses. People in
>>> 2016 will be grateful.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
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