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Re: New Non-WG Mailing List: NetSlices - Network Slicing

2017-01-16 20:18:11


On 1/16/2017 8:49 PM, Terry Manderson wrote:
Since you asked Adrian :)

I granted approval of this list, as a list, so that the definition of network 
slicing could be discussed in an IETF context.

Really, it boils down to the (on list) discussion of what is a proposed 
network slicing definition that could see the IETF doing work on. So really 
about presenting a better formed definition to the IETF, for the IETF to 
consider at some future point in time. As we know with most "I have a problem 
that I think the IETF should work on" proposals we tend to ask for the 
problem to be defined in a way that does communicate the depth and breadth of 
the issue or the idea before a BOF is considered. This is where I see network 
slicing now. 

well, there was an opportunity for some discussion an IETF context that
began and then went unanswered...

https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/teas/current/msg01808.html

Showing that this very amorphous concept has the hope of some agreed shape 
and also that there are sufficient bodies to form that shape, whatever it is.

As a mailing list (and JUSTa mailing list!) the work for the interested 
parties on that mailing list is to try to put words together that is actually 
meaningful in the IETF context. To be brutally honest I have doubts that this 
is possible from what I read to date but I do commit (as AD) to allowing 
discussion to occur as I'm neither the magistrate of taste nor the gate of 
interest.
Well there seems to be a trend to having a low bar for mailing lists
which means that folks with new ideas (at least to them) don't have much
motivation to research on going work to see how theirs fits in...  BTW
this is a general comment -- even if perhaps applicable in this case.

Lou

Cheers
Terry

On 14/01/2017, 3:37 AM, "ietf on behalf of Adrian Farrel" 
<ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org on behalf of 
adrian(_at_)olddog(_dot_)co(_dot_)uk> wrote:

    Thanks Stewart and Alex.
    
    > This list is intended for discussion of network slicing to determine
    > an agreed IETF definition of the term Network Slicing, problems and
    > gaps to be covered with an aim to facilitate interoperation across
    > different operator and vendor solutions. The list also determines (and
    > assimilates) which elements of the slicing problems are already
    > covered by existing IETF designs or work in progress.
    
    It's good to discuss stuff.
    
    How will agreement of "an IETF definition" be measured?
    Or maybe you mean to attempt to agree a definition among the people 
subscribed to the list and propose that as a definition for use by the IETF?
    But still, who on the list will call consensus?
    
    Why is this something to be petty about?
    Because I need to know whether this is a list I have to join and monitor 
in case I don't agree the definition, or whether that definition will come up 
for IETF review in the normal way.
    
    Perhaps the AD who granted this list with this charter could speak up?
    
    Adrian