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Re: Re: [sipcore] Last Call: <draft-ietf-sipcore-status-unwanted-04.txt> (A SIP Response Code for Unwanted Calls) to Proposed Standard

2017-03-21 19:23:31
---- On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 02:38:33 +0000 Paul Kyzivat  wrote ---- 
Denis, 

Do you have any expertise with SIP? I don't recall ever seeing your name 
before. Your comments exhibit a profound misunderstanding of it. 

Pete, I am happy to admit I don't have any meaningful expertise with SIP and it 
is quite likely I misunderstand important things about it as an engineer.

The point I am making is one of an end user: the document is an ethical failure 
already, in its present edition it is not appropriate for the large, 
non-technical user base of SIP.

The Internet where software makes it more likely for people to go wrong is 
worse, not better. "The goal of the IETF is to make the Internet work better." 
So now is time to stop and think instead of rushing the document through.

SIP response codes are almost never displayed to end users. For that 
matter they aren't even typically exposed to *operators* of SIP-based 
systems. Only when people are diagnosing signaling problems within the 
network are they visible. So the basic premise of your objection is 
ill-founded. 

This is similar to how HTTP response codes were originally intended; today's 
reality is that quite a fraction of Earth population can tell what HTTP 404 
means.

-- 
    Denis Ovsienko


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