--On Friday, May 26, 2017 17:31 -0400 Alia Atlas
<akatlas(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> wrote:
Yoav,
As indicated in Suresh's email, the existing on-site FCFS room
that holds around 16 people will continue to be
available. There will also be a room that holds about 30
people, in a U-shape, that will be available for sign-ups
a couple weeks before IETF (when the IETF agenda comes out).
Does that help clarify?
It does, but let me note three things for whatever they might be
worth:
(1) <rant> Suresh's description of these informal meetings match
reasonably closely something we did in the distant past. It was
calls a "BOF". Over the years, that concept of a BOF as a
relatively informal session for discussion of new ideas and
other things that were not ready for WG charters, morphed into
very formal arrangements requiring formal proposals more than
six weeks in advance of IETF meetings and approval by the IESG
and advice from the IAB. People dealt with that problem with
formally organized Bar BOFs, a combination that would have been
considered an oxymoron when BOFs were more informal gatherings,
which led to requests for meeting rooms for side meetings and
now sign-up arrangements for those meeting rooms.</rant>
(2) I believe there was at least one "informal side meeting" in
Chicago that wanted video remote participation arrangements, so
let me ask the question in advance: will this room be set up for
Meetecho and, if not, why not? Is it time for the IESG to
rethink how we do this and why we seem to need to move in
directions of more and more Procedures, rather than just walking
across (or down) slippery slopes?
(3) For those who are concerned about where we meet and what the
constraints are on locations, it may be worth noting that, for
at least some facilities, the number of small to medium-sized
meeting rooms we now require for one or two official
side-meeting spaces, plus rooms for IESG, IAB, Nomcom, IAD,
IOAC, ISOC, Secretariat work space, etc., may be as much of a
constraint as spaces for parallel WG sessions.
Grumpily,
john