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Re: IPv10, KRP, and RRP IDs Removal.

2017-06-06 12:46:13
Khaled,

The IESG has denied your request to remove your Internet-Draft. There is no 
legal right to remove your Internet-Draft from the I-D repository. Draft 
draft-omar-krp-01 contains the statement "This Internet-Draft is submitted in 
full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79.” The complete text 
of BCP 78 is can be found at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc5378 
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc5378> but I will specifically point out 
section 5.3, below:

"5.3.  Rights Granted by Contributors to the IETF Trust

To the extent that a Contribution or any portion thereof is protected by 
copyright or other rights of authorship, the Contributor and each named 
co-Contributor grant a perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, royalty-free, 
world-wide, sublicensable right and license to the IETF Trust under all such 
copyrights and other rights in the Contribution:

a. to copy, publish, display, and distribute the Contribution, in whole or in 
part,

b. to prepare translations of the Contribution into languages other than 
English, in whole or in part, and to copy, publish, display, and distribute 
such translations or portions thereof,

c. to modify or prepare derivative works (in addition to translations) that are 
based on or incorporate all or part of the Contribution, and to copy, publish, 
display, and distribute such derivative works, or portions thereof unless 
explicitly disallowed in the notices contained in a Contribution (in the form 
specified by the Legend Instructions), and

d. to reproduce any trademarks, service marks, or trade names which are 
included in the Contribution solely in connection with the  reproduction, 
distribution, or publication of the Contribution and derivative works thereof 
as permitted by this Section 5.3, provided that when reproducing Contributions, 
trademark and service mark identifiers used in the Contribution, including TM 
and (R), will be preserved."

By submitting an Internet-Draft to the IETF, you have granted the IETF Trust 
perpetual, irrevocable rights to publish it. I regret to inform you that you 
cannot retract these rights. However, provided that you do not submit a new 
version of the draft, it will expire on November 8, 2017 and at that point will 
no longer appear as an active Internet-Draft.

Regards,

Alexa  
IETF Executive Director


On May 26, 2017, at 9:02 AM, Khaled Omar 
<eng(_dot_)khaled(_dot_)omar(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com> wrote:

Hi,

The drafts should not be removed. The IESG has not identified any unusual 
circumstances (e.g., mistaken claims of authorship or allegations of draft 
content violating the law) that warrant removal of these drafts.

I didn't mention any reason for the request to remove my uploaded IDs, I'm 
the only author of these drafts, I made a request 6 months ago for uploading 
the 1st draft (IPv10) and now I'm requesting to remove them all, I'm not 
requesting someone else draft removal, the mentioned IDs are not of interest 
of the ietf members or participants, no reviewer(s) assigned officially for 
them, no wg created, and there was even no respect for the remote 
presentation where the microphone was muted during the presentation and 
didn't get the chance to continue the IPv10 presentation, this is one of the 
main reasons I asked for removing, they must not represent the ietf anymore.

We shouldn't wait for the drafts to be expired and be useless as I'll not 
update them again on the ietf repository.

Again, I repeat my request with full respect to all ietf and iesg members to 
remove my drafts and they must not be stored without informing the author of 
these drafts, full removal requested and nothing bad with it.

Regards,

Khaled Omar


-----Original Message-----
From: Alexa Morris [mailto:amorris(_at_)amsl(_dot_)com] 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:03 PM
To: Khaled Omar
Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: IPv10, KRP, and RRP IDs Removal.

Khaled,

The IESG has reviewed your request and the drafts will not be removed. Their 
response directly below:

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Alexa,

The drafts should not be removed. The IESG has not identified any unusual 
circumstances (e.g., mistaken claims of authorship or allegations of draft 
content violating the law) that warrant removal of these drafts.

Regards,
The IESG

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On May 22, 2017, at 5:54 PM, Khaled Omar 
<eng(_dot_)khaled(_dot_)omar(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com> wrote:

As mentioned in the provided link:

"Internet-Drafts have no formal status, and are subject to change or removal 
at any time."

which explains that IESG consensus is required in order to remove an 
Internet Draft from the I-D Repository.

From today's date till reaching this consensus for removal, these IDs 
shouldn't be discussed or published by the ietf on any meeting or any 
official event as the contents are not representing the ietf anymore after 
this date.

I'm waiting for the IESG response ... I hope they can make a decision soon.

"When an I-D is removed from the Public I-D Archive, a copy will be kept in 
a location accessible by the IETF Secretariat."

This of course doesn't gives the ietf the right of making any usage of these 
I-Ds after its removal.



-----Original Message-----
From: Alexa Morris [mailto:amorris(_at_)amsl(_dot_)com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:27 AM
To: Khaled Omar
Cc: Ole J. Jacobsen; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: IPv10, KRP, and RRP IDs Removal.

Khaled,

The IESG has published a statement on this topic. Please see "IESG Statement 
on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site" at 
https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/removal-of-an-internet-draft.html, which 
explains that IESG consensus is required in order to remove an Internet 
Draft from the I-D Repository.

I have forwarded your email to the IESG for their review. Please be patient 
as it will take at least several days for them to review and respond to this 
request. 

Regards,
Alexa

On May 22, 2017, at 7:09 PM, Khaled Omar 
<eng(_dot_)khaled(_dot_)omar(_at_)hotmail(_dot_)com> wrote:

I'm the only author of the listed IDs and they are submitted individually, 
I made this removal request and these IDs must not be stored on the ietf 
database anymore and the ietf representation must not exist after the 
request date and time which is 23rd of May, 2017 at 1:00 PM GMT+02:00.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ole Jacobsen [mailto:olejacobsen(_at_)me(_dot_)com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 1:02 AM
To: Khaled Omar
Subject: Re: IPv10, KRP, and RRP IDs Removal.


You really have no idea how the IETF works, do you?


On Mon, 22 May 2017, Khaled Omar wrote:

Hi Jasmine,

As I'm the only author of the following IDs:


1) Internet Protocol version 10 (IPv10): 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-omar-ipv10/


2) KHALED Routing Protocol (KRP): 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-omar-krp/


3) Regional Routing Protocol (RRP): 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-omar-rrp/


Please remove them all from the ietf database or repository.

If the ideas explained on these drafts will be used, discussed or 
published by the ietf, legal actions will be taken.

Regards,

Khaled Omar



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Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF
+1.510.492.4001
Email: amorris(_at_)amsl(_dot_)com




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Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF
+1.510.492.4001
Email: amorris(_at_)amsl(_dot_)com




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