Re: Unexpected -modtime effect

1997-03-14 10:49:03
As a side note and not to clutter up this list, but holding down the SHIFT
key while pressing the RELOAD button does perform a hard reload of the
page and forces netscape to get a new copy no matter what.  This works
about 95% of the time for retrieving a new doc, but there are times where
quitting and restarting NS are necessary. Hope this helps you out.


Aaron Holtz
First Network Group    "The First Name in Internetworking"
Manager, UNIX Systems Admin
Email:  aholtz(_at_)stockcar(_dot_)network1(_dot_)net
"I'm not saying they weren't delicious, I'm just not sure they were
 magically delicious."  -MBB

On Fri, 14 Mar 1997, Earl Hood wrote:

:> I now use the -modtime option for my archives to use the new glimpse
:> feature to return hits rev. sorted by date.  I wonder why netscape 'reload'
:> does not work anymore.  It seems that netscape is using 'if modified'
:> since request for 'Reload' and the time does not change anymore with
:> -modtime.
:> The only idea that I have to fix this would be that if be navigational
:> links change one should add one second to the original time value.  Other
:> sources of file time modification are the followup/reference changes.
:> But the total time drift should still be small.
:The problem is NS Navigator's caching.  When you perform a reload, it
:only causes the Navigator to check if the document has a new date
:(which is sent by the server).  If it does not, Navigator uses
:its cached copy.  Navigator needs a forced reload function, i.e.
:reget the data regardless.  The only way to do a forced reload is to
:quit and restart, or explicitly flush the cache.
:You may want to look at the HTTP specification.  It's been
:a few years since I looked at it, but it covers expiration and
:date issues.
:I would prefer not to add some kludge to mhonarc based upon the
:characteristics of a particular WWW client and/or server.  It
:appears to too much work for the gain achieved.
:       --ewh

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