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Re: Key selectors (Was: Re: unpublished public keys )

1994-12-21 16:34:00
My assessment of the "failure" of PEM is different than yours, 
perhaps because of a different perspective of the market. 

In my view, PEM failed because it was not deployed in a timely fashion.
It depended on an infrastructure that was not built, and does not yet exist.

This lack of deployment is the mistake we are in danger of repeating.  If we 
repeat it, everything else is moot.

I don't mean to dismiss the PGP users out of hand. But on the other 
hand, I don't see any great wave of PGP encrypted or signed 
messages flowing over the net, either.

I do.  In between Email World and the IETF this month I stayed with a friend 
of mine who happens to be a leading fiction copy editor.  She uses PGP to send 
pre-published manuscripts back and forth with her publishers over the 
Internet, and says that there's a *lot* of interest in PGP in that industry.  

They've never even heard of PEM.  Nobody's promoted it, nobody's deployed it 
until very recently, and the infastructure for it still does not exist.

And I do't see anyone in 
corporate America, in the EDI or Electronic Commerce area, in 
the electronic benefits and tax filing areas, or in the federal, state 
or local governmental level adopting PGP to any significant degree.

EDI and governments are not the only arenas where PEM is applicable, and they 
are not representative of mass-market applications.

EDI is based on contracts, drawn up in advance, and is very concerned with 
authorization, roles, and so on.  Certificates are perfect for this.  However, 
the mass market does not seem to want electronic commerce according to the EDI 
model, they want it according to the credit card model.  No prior arrangement, 
ad hoc transactions, instant clearing.  For this, certificates are close to 
irrelevant, although they are useful for setting up persistent accounts.

The same is true of governmental and tax/benefit models.  For these contexts, 
certificates are great and useful things.  For sending love notes, letters 
home to mom, ordering something from MacWarehouse, and such, X.509 
certificates are not as useful as things like First Virtual or CyberCash's 
payment systems.
 
And that is my fundamental objection. Maybe we shold call it PGP/MIME? 

Certificates are useful for many things.  Certificates are not useful for all 
things.  MIME/PEM is a general-purpose mechanism upon which certificate-based, 
ad-hoc, or other authorization and trust models can be built.  It does not 
preclude anyone from using it for EDI.  It also does not require anyone to 
jump through EDI-style hoops just so they can order a coffee mug over the net.

Mechanism, not policy.  MIME/PEM is a format.  It is a piece of 
infrastructure.  It is not sufficient infastructure for many PEM applications, 
but it is a necessary subset that is shared by most if not all PEM 
applications.

What is wrong with approving this necessary subset, even though it is not all 
things to all users?

Completeness is not necessary for utility.
Amanda Walker
InterCon Systems Corporation

PGP Key fingerprint: 594F63C03B52DC4E37E9160DE733CD87
PEM MD5OfPublicKey:  8E4A21B7025943DE2EDC7CC038B3D6B1
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