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Re: lists on egroups.com

2000-09-18 19:33:54
At 20:16 -0700 9/17/00, Dave Robbins wrote:
I got put on at least two lists on egroups.com without my approval
and certainly no action on my part.  The list admin appears to funnell
his/her lists through a list at cuy.net as can be seen in either of
two headers included below.  I have contacted the list manager at cuy.net
and notify(_at_)egroups(_dot_)com without any action or response on their part.
All my other recipes work yet I have tried redirecting the mail from
these two lists to /dev/null and back to the list admin without success.

The list is running on a majordomo server on a cuy.net machine. See below for analysis.

Any suggestions on who to contact at egroups to get someone to act
against such abuse?

abuse(_at_)egroups(_dot_)com and abuse(_at_)yahoo(_dot_)com is a good start. Send a copy to postmaster(_at_)cuy(_dot_)net, too. You may want to mention that cuy.net seems to be running a majordomo reflector of eGroups mailing lists, which they may not like. The subscribed address is dads(_at_)cuy(_dot_)net(_dot_) But it isn't eGroups' problem; cuy.net is the culprit.

You may find your removal from these lists, ah, expedited if you're willing to use one of several methods. The clean one is to generate bounces for majordomo to deal with:

:0
^(From|Received).*tom\.cuy\.net
   {
   LOG="$DT Rejected mail: tom.cuy.net
"
   EXITCODE=67
   :0:
   $MAILDATA/cuynet-f
}

Unless it's severely malconfigured, majordomo will give up on you eventually. Note that my recipe doesn't auto-trash the messages (who knows, maybe the postmaster will eventually respond).

You could also set up your sendmail to deny tom.cuy.net; this would make that problem go away until either they give up or change machine names and IP addresses. But that's not a procmail solution, and it presumes you're the admin of the machine.

The dirty way is to use your procmail skills for evil and not good. I won't go into details -- it's a last-resort kind of thing (hint: lots of forwarding). I don't advise it unless you have a pitch-black heart. :-)

Regards,

Scott


From dads-owner(_at_)tom(_dot_)cuy(_dot_)net  Sun Sep 17 18:10:52 2000
Received: from tom.cuy.net (tom.cuy.net [207.246.237.133])
        by geosci.geol.ucsb.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26004
        for <dave(_at_)geosci(_dot_)geol(_dot_)ucsb(_dot_)edu>; Sun, 17 Sep 
2000 18:10:51 -0700 (PDT)

Your machine got it from tom.cuy.net.

Received: (from majordom(_at_)localhost)
        by tom.cuy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA04070
        for dads-outgoing; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 21:17:19 -0400

Majordomo got it from the queue locally.

X-Authentication-Warning: tom.cuy.net: majordom set sender to owner-dads(_at_)cuy(_dot_)net using -f
Received: from f19.egroups.com (f19.egroups.com [208.50.99.238])
        by tom.cuy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA04066
        for <dads(_at_)cuy(_dot_)net>; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 21:17:09 -0400

cuy.net got it from egroups. The address it was sent to is 
dads(_at_)cuy(_dot_)net(_dot_)


The rest is unimportant, and mostly similar. tom.cuy.net is your target.

Scott


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