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Summary:
* procmail.org reflectors need to direct messages to the correct
rwth-aachen.de addresses:
procmail-users(_at_)procmail(_dot_)org
procmail(_at_)lists(_dot_)rwth-aachen(_dot_)de
procmail-users-request(_at_)procmail(_dot_)org
procmail-request(_at_)lists(_dot_)rwth-aachen(_dot_)de
who: AFAIK, Stephen is still the maintainer of that host (and the DNS
zone).
* <http://www.procmail.org/era/lists.html> should list the correct current
address of the procmail and sendmail lists (for the procmail users list,
the addresses on the LHS above may be most appropriate, seeing as recent
procmails refer to those addresses).
who: AFAIK, Philip Guenther manages the website, although the page in
question is under Era's tree.
* A listadmin with closer ties to the list (notably someone who can see the
problems on the list firsthand as they arise) should be in place. I know a
couple of years ago, the present listadmin offered to provide the mailman
login for emergency use as necessary (not that it applies to this current
situation, but who here hasn't dealt with receiving vacation messages and
direct-addressed delivery failure reports when posting to the list?). I
think now might be a good time to pass that information along -- I'm not
personally opposed to dealing with this, though I've got no idea how much
administrative email traffic the list generates.
who: Guido Bunsen at rwth-aachen.de
At 13:25 2003-09-11 -0400, Birl wrote:
This question just appeared on the SunManagers list.
Does anyone from RWTH-Aachen.DE watch this list?
I can't say that of ANY of the messages I've sent to the listadmin, I've
ever actually received a reply.
(Ironically, his message actually dropped into my Procmail folder and not
the SunManagers folder --- looks like I have to fix my filters.)
Yup, perhaps not filtering on the SUBJECT would be a start.
550 5.1.1 <procmail-request(_at_)informatik(_dot_)RWTH-Aachen(_dot_)de>... User
unknown
From the headers of every message posted to this list:
List-Post: <mailto:procmail(_at_)lists(_dot_)RWTH-Aachen(_dot_)DE>
List-Subscribe: <http://MailMan.RWTH-Aachen.DE/mailman/listinfo/procmail>,
<mailto:procmail-request(_at_)lists(_dot_)RWTH-Aachen(_dot_)DE?subject=subscribe>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://MailMan.RWTH-Aachen.DE/mailman/listinfo/procmail>,
<mailto:procmail-request(_at_)lists(_dot_)RWTH-Aachen(_dot_)DE?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://mailman.RWTH-Aachen.de/pipermail/procmail>
List-Help:
<mailto:procmail-request(_at_)lists(_dot_)RWTH-Aachen(_dot_)DE?subject=help>
List-Id: discussion of the procmail program <procmail.lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE>
The informatik host has not been part of this list for a couple of years or so.
Of course, 'procmail -v' itself refers to <procmail-users(_at_)procmail(_dot_)org>,
which has had continuity problems for over 18 months now, starting with an
unfortunate DNSBL listing:
<procmail-users(_at_)procmail(_dot_)org>
(reason: 553 5.3.0 <procmail(_at_)informatik(_dot_)rwth-aachen(_dot_)de>... Open spam
relay - see http://www.orbz.org/)
The address used to simply forward to the list at rwth-aachen.de, but in
December 2001, the host for the procmail.org MX was DNSBL'd (IIRC, there
was a system failure, and when it was restored, some configurations weren't
brought current, and as a result, it was open to relaying).
Subsequently - and, AFAIK, to this day - the procmail.org reflector is
pointing at the informatik address, which of course bounces. I've tried to
point this out to Stephen, but nothing's been done. Last time I checked
was February of this year, which resulted in the following:
<procmail(_at_)informatik(_dot_)rwth-aachen(_dot_)de>
(reason: 550 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias:
procmail(_at_)informatik(_dot_)rwth-aachen(_dot_)de)
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Sean B. Straw / Professional Software Engineering
Procmail disclaimer: <http://www.professional.org/procmail/disclaimer.html>
Please DO NOT carbon me on list replies. I'll get my copy from the list.
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