On 27 Jan 2004 Meng Weng Wong <spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com>
wrote:
On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 10:38:59AM -0800, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
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| I do not need a list of reasons why we are bound to fail from people who
| refuse to believe that there is even a problem.
|
SPF conversations tend to fall into two groups.
Group 1:
"Hi, we're SPF. We're here to fix email."
"No, you're breaking email!"
"Well, yes, but it was broken before. We're making it less broken."
"It's not broken! Liar!"
"Yes it is!"
"No it isn't!"
"Yes it is!"
etc.
Group 2:
"Hi, we're SPF. We're here to fix email."
"But you're going to break stuff."
"Well, yes, but email was broken before. We're making it less broken."
"Hmm. OK, what's going to change?"
"Well, there's the forwarding thing, and you have to do SMTP AUTH."
"Damn. Is there no other way?"
"Not unless you want to keep getting spam."
"All right, then. I'll go bug my MTA vendor."
"That's the spirit. What do you have for sendmail?"
"We're working on some patches. Check back in a couple weeks."
I still see a group #3. These are the ones in group #2 that are going to
analyze the fix/change/implementation and compare this to the problem and
then do a cost trade off analysis to determine the fix is worth the cost
to implement on a world-wide basis. When you have a 200,000 users spread
out all over the place even the smallest of changes is going to have a
significant impact. If this does not come out as cost effective to
implement then there is going to be no implementation. In any case I can
see this group holding back until others prove the concept. I just got a
message today from corporate that they are managing to block 80-85% of
the spam and getting that last 15% or so would help a lot but not if it
would cost a lot. ;-)
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Give me ambiguity or give me something else.
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