Re: Is AOL using SPF on all its servers?

Does AOL actually reject mail connections from servers that have no reverse 
DNS, as their web page 
http://postmaster.info.aol.com/guidelines/standards.html says:  "AOL's mail 
servers will reject connections from any IP address that does not have 
reverse DNS (a PTR record)."  The reason I wonder is that I have quite an 
exception list of mailing list servers that do not conform to this simple 
requirement, but from which I wish to receive eMail.  These mailing lists 
are popular enough that I suspect that there are many AOL customers that 
subscribe to them, and I wonder how the messages are getting through to AOL 
customers.
If AOL is not presently rejecting such servers, I hope they do soon.  I 
will rejoice on the day that AOL actually starts rejecting mail from such 
servers, as that will force them into compliance, meaning that I won't have 
to maintain my own exception list for them.
-- Dean

Carl Hutzler wrote on 2004-06-02 12:08:
> We do not use it to filter inbound at this time. We hope to do this shortly.
>
> gyoung(_at_)gldata(_dot_)com wrote:
>
> > After create the DNS SPF resource record for our domain, we reduce the
> > reject notices from AOL from about 150/day to about 5/day.
> >
> > However we still get domain spoofed related rejects from AOL (the
> > transaction header is below).
> > Guess AOL is not implementing SPF on all its servers?
> >
> > gy
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > Received: from  gldata.com (athn-cas1-cs-46.dial.bright.net
> > [216.201.30.175]) by rly-xi04.mx.aol.com (v99_r4.3) with ESMTP id
> > MAILRELAYINXI44-4dc40be0d938d; Wed, 02 Jun 2004 13:25:55 -0400
> > age-Info: NOgfI804xCM65BwHQB25XOeMOP498J22EH609xlb3FFU
> > Received: (from chd3hanging(_at_)localhost)
> >    by dp494-enough2.k23x.amcousa.com (6.02.01/2.58.01) id
> > f3K757d580120;
> >    Wed, 02 Jun 2004 12:29:55 -0400 GMT
> > X-Authentication-Warning: ub45-very1.lmm02o.amcousa.com: gi15doubt set
> > sender to cbeofvs(_at_)gldata(_dot_)com using -p
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 12:32:11 -0400
> > From: estefana Akbas <cbeofvs(_at_)gldata(_dot_)com>
> > Subject: bottle    V1c0d1n $a1e    rough
> > To: sealtonm(_at_)aol(_dot_)com>, <mrscathey(_at_)aol(_dot_)com>, 
> > <quisqueyana47(_at_)aol(_dot_)com>,
> >        <alonao(_at_)aol(_dot_)com>, <princessworld88(_at_)aol(_dot_)com>,
> > <jamaicamemoney(_at_)aol(_dot_)com>,
> >        <babyluv2006(_at_)aol(_dot_)com>, <strawberry6484(_at_)aol(_dot_)com>,
> > <mikeymiker(_at_)aol(_dot_)com>,
> >        <ian07603(_at_)aol(_dot_)com>, <icecandy14(_at_)aol(_dot_)com>, 
> > <lsmith7861(_at_)aol(_dot_)com>,
> >        <jeannielover2(_at_)aol(_dot_)com>, <dominicdem(_at_)aol(_dot_)com>,
> > <stephenshm(_at_)aol(_dot_)com>,
> >        <c7combass(_at_)aol(_dot_)com>, <papgal(_at_)aol(_dot_)com>, 
> > <horus636(_at_)aol(_dot_)com>,
> >        <angelof78(_at_)aol(_dot_)com>, <babybehrs(_at_)aol(_dot_)com
> > Message-Id: <x721jo6-23548-8931448365632(_at_)punishment9>
> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> >    boundary="--wxyeyvpscqo_1086193870"
> > X-AOL-IP: 216.201.30.175
> > X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:XXX:XX
> > X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0
> >
> > -------
> > Sender Policy Framework: http://spf.pobox.com/
> >
> > The Inbox Event at the Marriott San Jose features SPF.
> >   June 2: Email Accountability Symposium (free)
> >   June 3: SPF Strategy BOF (free) where industry will coordinate 
> > deployment timeline
> >   Times: 6:30pm - 8pm, both sessions.  http://www.inboxevent.com/
> >
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> Carl Hutzler
> Director, AntiSpam Operations
> America Online Mail Operations
> cdhutzler(_at_)aol(_dot_)com
> 703.265.5521 work
> 703.915.6862 cell
>
>
> -------
> Sender Policy Framework: http://spf.pobox.com/
>
> The Inbox Event at the Marriott San Jose features SPF.
>   June 2: Email Accountability Symposium (free)
>   June 3: SPF Strategy BOF (free) where industry will coordinate 
> deployment timeline
>   Times: 6:30pm - 8pm, both sessions.  http://www.inboxevent.com/
>
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