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Re: Re: Interaction with anti-spam systems

2004-08-05 03:39:35
Michel Bouissou wrote:
The funny thing is that I've seen many "obvious spams from spamming domains" being rejected with an SPF FAIL. Which means that spammers have set-up SPF records that do not correspond to the machines from which they send or forward. Thus they are shooting themselves in the foot ;-)

I've noticed that *many* times, I saw rejections of "SPF failing spam-domains" come by batches of 3 or 4, in the same minute or so. In such cases, most of these actually show the same SPF record.

The SPF record thay usually shows for these is:
yesanother.com text "v=spf1 ip4:216.65.64.1/24 ip4:216.65.3.1/24 a:send1.surgeweb.com mx -all"

An example of such a "batch of 3 or 4" is:

Aug  4 19:41:44 reject: RCPT from unknown[80.253.1.54]:
550 <affector(_at_)iloveswindon(_dot_)com>: Sender address rejected: Violation 
SPF: [...]
from=<affector(_at_)iloveswindon(_dot_)com> helo=<intelsat.ru>

Aug  4 19:41:58 reject: RCPT from intelsat.ru[80.253.1.52]:
550 <brett(_at_)yesanother(_dot_)com>: Sender address rejected: Violation SPF: 
[...]
from=<brett(_at_)yesanother(_dot_)com> helo=<intelsat.ru>

Aug  4 19:42:43 reject: RCPT from atlas.aquitaine.iufm.fr[195.220.161.3]:
550 <knotted(_at_)leaveitwithme(_dot_)com>: Sender address rejected: Violation 
SPF: [...]
from=<knotted(_at_)leaveitwithme(_dot_)com> helo=<atlas.aquitaine.iufm.fr>

Aug  4 19:44:33 reject: RCPT from mail.probit.wroc.pl[81.219.229.100]:
550 <blackening(_at_)faberoonie(_dot_)com>: Sender address rejected: Violation 
SPF: [...]
from=<blackening(_at_)faberoonie(_dot_)com> helo=<mail.probit.wroc.pl>

These aren't spam-domains, they're domains operated by the mail service provider another.com (see http://another.com/). They used to do a lot of freemail stuff too, much like Outblaze, so spammers like using their domains. I guess that once the effect of the SPF records finally reaches the brains of the spammers, they'll move on to abuse someone else's domains.

Paul.