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RE: Re: Re: [Fwd: DEPLOY: Microsoft Patent license unworkable with GPLed MTAs]

2004-08-28 17:05:56
As I understand it the text:
"This Agreement will be available to all parties without prejudice."

Is the same as:
"This Agreement will be available to all parties under protest."

Anyone know if I am correct?
If yes, then what effect does it have?

http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/1/1-207.html

Guy

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The words "without prejudice" are legal magic.  I must admit, I don't
understand the implications of using the legal incantation.  But "without
prejudice" is the same as "under protest".

http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/1/1-207.html

Guy

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On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 10:19:49AM -0700,
 Alan Hodgson <ahodgson(_at_)simkin(_dot_)ca> wrote 
 a message of 37 lines which said:

You wish to burn copies of those DVD's for your fellow LUG members.
But, wait, now you have to sign a license agreement with Microsoft
before you can do so. [...]  Every Fedora mirror operator had to
sign a license agreement with Microsoft to host the packages.

I do not think you are right on this point. The Microsoft licence
clearly says:

For clarification, this Agreement does not impose any obligation on
You to require the recipients of Your source code implementations of
such Licensed Implementations to accept this or any other Agreement
with Microsoft. Your End Users may use the Licensed Implementations
licensed in this section 2.2 or in section 2.1 that they receive
directly or indirectly from You without executing this
Agreement. This Agreement will be available to all parties without
prejudice.

The licence is necessary if you write (or, since we talk about free
software, modify) a mail program (which is unacceptable enough). But
not if you only distribute it.

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