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[spf-discuss] Exclusive v. Open SPF records

2005-09-03 15:34:55
My apologies if this has already been discussed.  I'm new to this forum and the 
archives don't support searches.  That said....

Does anybody else think that allowing for non-exclusive (?all) SPF records 
completely kills the goal of Sender Policy Framework?  Before everyone responds 
to that, please consider my reasoning.

1.  Non-exclusive SPF records do not improve the status quo in identifying 
spoofed senders.  Without SPF, MTAs know that a message is either sent by the 
domain it claims to be from, or it MAY not be.  With non-exclusive SPF records, 
MTAs are left with the same determination.  If all SPF records were exclusive, 
then MTAs would know that messages are either real or not - effectively 
changing the existing "grey area" to black by providing real results.

In other words, if an SPF record allows for a soft fail, then it does not allow 
for a hard fail.  In that case, the SPF test either returns the result "this is 
legit" or "this may not be legit" which is exactly where SMTP is WITHOUT SPF


2.  Non-exclusive SPF records force domains to publish a list of all outbound 
servers.  I can't believe that anybody thinks this is a bad thing.  For one, if 
the point of SPF is to separate valid from spoofed senders, where do anonymous 
senders fit in?  Is it not appropriate for a domain to funnel all it's outbound 
messages through specific servers?  After all, SMTP authentication can be used 
to verify all stages of a domains internal routing without having to publish 
anything on the internet.  Does anybody want to make the argument that 
workstations should send messages directly instead of through its domain's 
official SMTP servers?


3.  Non-exclusive SPF records make SPF a 'half-ass' solution.  I know it's the 
same basic point but if SPF still allows for spoofed MAIL FROMs then it's not 
solving anything.  While there are some creative ways out there for MTAs to 
handle a soft fail, they all involve excessive connections, bandwidth and 
delays which increases infrastructure demands while slowing down message 
delivery.  Keep in mind that with all that wasted money (and time if it's not 
the same thing to you), you still don't know for certain if a message is 
legitimate.


Spammers and hackers are smart and aggressive people, if you provide them an 
inch, they will take a mile.

-Gaven

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