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[spf-discuss] Re: HARDPASS again

2006-12-02 16:58:12
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Alex van den Bogaerdt wrote:
Actually I find the remark "hair-splitting" insulting.  If it is
not that important to you, you should not put so much effort in
getting it your way.

Look, the problem is that everytime this comes up, after a while I get 
tired debating it, but it always comes up again later because I just can't 
get this "Pass means I authorized the message, but don't blame me for it!" 
concept into my head.  It doesn't make sense to me.  Not. Make. Sense. To. 
Me. :-(

Frank Ellermann wrote:
It's IMNSHO an utter dubious idea to treat "?all" different from a "?"
elsewhere.  It's also perfectly okay to offer "PASS or ?all" policies
for inclusion.

Who suggested any such thing?

If we can agree on that I could send a "publication request" for the
op=auth stuff to the IESG even if it's nowhere implemented, that would
offer the missing HARDPASS for those who want it.

I agreed on the idea of "op=auth" meaning that cross-user forgery would be 
prevented.  I even had added it to my own domain a while back.  But this 
has nothing to do with whether domain-based reputation can be applied.  If 
a domain insists that it does not want to (or is unable to) prevent 
cross-user forgery, but abusive e-mail gets sent from hosts authorized by 
that domain using that domain as the envelope sender, the domain will 
still earn a bad reputation for using insecure infrastructure.

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