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[spf-discuss] External mail servers

2009-06-29 05:04:25
My email SMTP server is hosted externally.

I have been advised by the openspf.org wizard that the MTA should have an SPF record.

I have asked the service provider to publish an SPF record but they reply that:-

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It is very rare that a mail receiver client will perform SPF lookups on anything other than the MX relays of the email sender domain (MAIL FROM/HELO domain). Most mail receivers will use SPF amongst many other checks to determine a final action for the mail, however some will decide to REJECT the mail based solely on the SPF results.

Using your domain as an example, since the SPF check for mortgage-advice-centre.co.uk (when sent via mail1.ukisp.com) will PASS, further checks will be un-necessary and just a waste of bandwidth.

According to RFC4408, Section 9, Subsection 9.5,

"The (SPF) authorization check generally precludes the use of arbitrary MTA relays between sender and receiver of an E-Mail message."

"To perform the authorization test other than at the border,
the host that first transferred the message to the organization must
be determined, which can be difficult to extract from the message
header. Testing other than at the border is not recommended."

You will notice that most organisations will not have an SPF record published for their domain's MX relays. For example, google.com:

dig mx google.com

[snip google records]

As no mail is generated as being FROM mail4.ukisp.com, the requirement for an SPF record is neglible. Backscatter in this instance is not a problem as no valid recipients at mail4.ukisp.com will exist, therefore be accepted.
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My question - are they correct?

If they are correct, why is there not more accurate guidance at openspf.org?

If they are not correct, what is the follow-up that I should send to repudiate their response and why is this topic not covered in the openspf.org FAQ's




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