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Re: [spf-discuss] what is problem with this list ? I am receiving 1/5 messages maybe

2010-01-14 03:20:42
At 08:26 14/01/2010  Thursday, Dejan Petrovic wrote:

this is mdaemon, something happen and I can't find what. Looks like this is 
checking headers after email is received. I will check that tomorrow.

http://www.altn.com/Literature/Manuals/MDaemon-eMail-Server-Manual.pdf

page 240
turn off the senderID part {as pra is a horrible idea A, and obviously mdeamon 
implementation has a major flaw}

feel free to raise the but with alt-n but from past dealings i would suspect it 
will come to naught
{though it is easily 4-6 years since i have seen any users of their mailserver 
in the real world}
which is a pity because it used to be a great mailserver for win9x and sme 
customers


Thank you
Dejan 



-----Original Message-----
From: alan <spfdiscuss(_at_)alandoherty(_dot_)net>
To: spf-discuss(_at_)v2(_dot_)listbox(_dot_)com,"Dejan Petrovic" 
<dejanspf2(_at_)ztbclan(_dot_)com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:30:47 +0000
Subject: Re: [spf-discuss] what is problem with this list ? I am receiving 1/5 
messages maybe

Its likely you won't get this one too


A because your doing senderID pra checks {on mail from a mailinglist !}

B because apparently something is broke in your senderID implementation but i 
can's see what



Wed 2010-01-13 18:22:32: Performing Sender ID lookup (alandoherty.net / 
64.74.157.82)

correct

Wed 2010-01-13 18:22:33: *  Policy: spf2.0/pra 
redirect=%{l}._sid-pra.%{d2}._mail.%{d2}

correct

Wed 2010-01-13 18:22:33: *  Evaluating 
redirect=%{l}._sid-pra.%{d2}._mail.%{d2}: 

meaning lookup
spfdiscuss._sid-pra.alandoherty.net._mail.alandoherty.net

which i lookup
set type=txt
spfdiscuss._sid-pra.alandoherty.net._mail.alandoherty.net
Server:  ns1.ns.esat.net
Address:  192.111.39.1

Non-authoritative answer:
spfdiscuss._sid-pra.alandoherty.net._mail.alandoherty.net       text =

       "spf2.0/pra redirect=_sid-pra-restrictive.%{d3}"


Wed 2010-01-13 18:22:33: *  Evaluating 
redirect=%{l}._sid-pra.%{d2}._mail.%{d2}: performing lookup
Wed 2010-01-13 18:22:35: *    Policy: spf2.0/pra exp=_msg-nosuch2.%{d3} -all

crazy this is the result for *._sid-pra.alandoherty.net._mail.alandoherty.net
so somehow your library isn't adding the %{l} == spfdiscuss to its lookup
so its getting the result for senders using 
utter-bollix(_at_)alandoherty(_dot_)net

you can verify this by manual querying your own dns servers for the legit 
records

$ORIGIN _sid-pra.alandoherty.net._mail.alandoherty.net.
*                       TXT     "spf2.0/pra exp=_msg-nosuch2.%{d3} -all"
alan                    TXT     "spf2.0/pra 
redirect=_sid-pra-non-restrictive.%{d3}"
error-tracker           TXT     "spf2.0/pra 
redirect=_sid-pra-restrictive.%{d3}"
postmaster              TXT     "spf2.0/pra 
redirect=_sid-pra-restrictive.%{d3}"
spam-l                  TXT     "spf2.0/pra 
redirect=_sid-pra-restrictive.%{d3}"
spfdiscuss              TXT     "spf2.0/pra 
redirect=_sid-pra-restrictive.%{d3}"
spider-trap             TXT     "spf2.0/pra 
redirect=_sid-pra-restrictive.%{d3}"


Wed 2010-01-13 18:22:35: *    Evaluating exp=_msg-nosuch2.%{d3}: deferred
Wed 2010-01-13 18:22:35: *    Evaluating -all: match
Wed 2010-01-13 18:22:35: *  Result: fail
Wed 2010-01-13 18:22:35: ---- End Sender ID results
Wed 2010-01-13 18:22:35: --> 550 This address is never valid in from: header 
as nouser sends with this address from this domain, it may yet be a valid 
receive-only address
Wed 2010-01-13 18:22:35: SMTP session terminated (Bytes in/out: 7088/574)


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