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Re: [xsl] Adding entity declarations to DOCTYPE in xml output

2019-02-27 16:48:31
Back in the early '90s, when HTML was still an SGML application, Yuri Rubinski 
(the godfather of SGML and a tireless champion of structured markup until his 
untimely passing) asked myself and another colleague to demonstrate using 
external text entities with HTML as a potential way to make more "dynamic" HTML 
pages but of course it didn't get any traction with the browser vendors, who 
barely understood that start and end tags represented complete structures... It 
also required using a real SGML parser, which was a problem, a problem we 
explicitly tried to address with XML ...

But that's ancient history now and if I keep this up I'll start singing Lady of 
Spain and try to show you my scars....


Eliot Kimber

On 2/27/19, 3:43 PM, "Wendell Piez wapiez(_at_)wendellpiez(_dot_)com" 
<xsl-list-service(_at_)lists(_dot_)mulberrytech(_dot_)com> wrote:

    Hey Liam,
    On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 12:12 AM Liam R. E. Quin 
    <xsl-list-service(_at_)lists(_dot_)mulberrytech(_dot_)com> wrote:
    > If XML had (like HTML) been without an inclusion mechanism of its own,
    > solutions like XInclude woudlwould have happened sooner. The barely
    > adequate discourages the excellent.
    Too true. There are tradeoffs even to the tradeoffs.
    > A problem with entities is that they are in the syntactic domain rather
    > than representing relationships.
    Indeed indeed. They stand between us and the parse.
    Yet I find the same thing to be true of all these so-called static
    site generators, which work entirely by tag-patching, and think we
    have still not come far enough. The bad old thing keeps getting
    reinvented even after we have better. It makes me sad to have
    beautiful clean data coming out of my process and hear them say, do
    you think we could have it in Markdown?
    Cheers, Wendell
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