Frank Ellermann wrote:
So, what would you want the recipient MUA to do with these. The
consensus seems to be that they should still receive them - so what
difference does the 'expires' make? Automatically moving them into
another folder when they arrive is nearly the same as automatically
deleting them as far as many users goes! Showing them in grey or another
colour doesn't stop people having to read them to see if they've missed
Paul Smith wrote:
All I can figure out so far is that the expiry of a
message implies it's possibly not quite as important,
urgent or valid to the sender/recipient/some-other-
person as it would have been before it expired.
I'm not sure that's a tight enough definition :)
From a sender's POV "expired" could mean "if you read
this mail later whatever I wanted is not more relevant".
"confirm your subscription to list X in the next 3 days"
"special offer valid until 2008-06-30"
"I'm out of office until 2008-07-18"
"confirm your subscription to list X in the next 3 days" is still
important if you receive it 4 days later. Now you know you need to try
again to get onto the list.
"I'm out of the office until ..." may be important, you may have been
bad-mouthing a contact because they hadn't replied to you earlier, and
now you'll know why
"special offer valid until ..." may still be important from the sender's
point of view as a "buy our wonderful flying car for only $15,000 before
30th July, look how amazing it is..." is still a good advertisement if
it's received on the 1st August, and the recipient may still want it
even though the special offer has expired.
No it doesn't. If 'happy birthday' arrived late, you'd still want the
recipient to know you'd thought of them, so in that case 'better late
than never' applies.
Good examples apparently require some kind of mailbot
on the sender's side. It is less useful for ordinary
(sending) MUAs, e.g., "happy birthday" with Expires:
makes no sense, or does it ?
'expires' only makes sense (IMV) if it would reduce the mail to be read
by the recipient by getting rid of stuff that's absolutely no use any
more. In that case, it may as well be deleted automatically - but no one
wants that. My problem is that I can't think of anything which is
*absolutely* no use after a certain date (which *would* have been of
some use before that date). So, you'd still need to read expired mail to
see if it's of some use to you - in which case what's the point?
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