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Re: [Asrg] A method to eliminate spam

2003-03-18 09:20:56
meor(_at_)mail(_dot_)SoftHome(_dot_)net wrote:

The current protocol is just as susceptible to server outages as the proposed would be.

What you have completely failed to realize is that there are far more active players in delivering a piece of email than just the servers. Your proposal forces the user to be "aware" of the state of every single router-hop and piece of wire along the way. Router crashes in backbone? Users can't even hit "SEND" for _any_ email that would traverse that router, either side.

Certainly, that's at first glance "no worse than web". I fail to see how decreasing the reliability of email to the same (not that good) level as the web does anyone any good.

What you're also completely failing to see is that server administrators don't _want_ to expose their mailbox servers to the Internet. That's where all the email sits, right? All your email ripe for plucking by hackers. That's why there are gateways and firewalls.

You couldn't email to sites behind gateways. You couldn't email to sites with intermittent connectivity (either by design or accident). Senders would have to take evasive action if the link went down in the middle of transmission. Etc. Trying to send to two people whose server's connectivity was intermittent exactly out of sync? Impossible.

We're trying to build things that isolate the user from the low-level behaviour of the Internet, not the opposite.

Requiring end-to-end instant (especially reverse) connectivity is totally impractical in a one-to-many transmission scheme - which is what email is - unlike web (except in the rare and unusual case of webcasting).

And finally, as described before, trying to do any sort of centralized logging or filtering becomes impossible, unless you want to make your routers SMTP-aware - which is a gross violation of the layering principle inherent in any well-designed and built networking stack. They're flakey enough as it is :-(

Your "fix" would break many of the desirable (and in some circumstances _critical_) characteristics of email that we rely on.

It really is a total non-starter.

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