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Re: [Asrg] Certs required to send mail

2003-03-25 18:29:39
From: william(_at_)elan(_dot_)net

But ISPs do terminate accounts for sending unsolicited emails in any kind 
of large number. There is a reason why all spammers have switched to China.

I wish I thought that was a joke instead of offensive and knowingly
false noise like "SPEWS has listed all of UUNET".

ISPs that don't terminate spammers make it worth for themselve and can not 
get peering from other isps (i.e. remember AGIS?). And if they are buying 
transit, then it becomes responsibility of their upstream to enforce AUP.

Who, pray tell, is upstream of UUNET or Sprint?
(yes, Sprint is rumored to have started actually terminating spammers)

You can not hope to stop spammer who just signed up today at large isp,
but large spammers rely on pemanent connections and try their best to hide 
who they are and where they are sending emails from, ...

Since email spam first became a problem, I have not seen a single
spammer that was able to hide from anyone with minimal technical clues.
They can hide from computer programs (e.g. SpamAssasin and SpamCop)
for a while or linger, but that's only because computers are too stupid
to know about IP routing and so forth



Vernon Schryver    vjs(_at_)rhyolite(_dot_)com
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