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Re: [Asrg] Spam Control Complexity

2003-04-20 11:39:27
On Sun, 20 Apr 2003, John Fenley wrote:

Spam doesn't "use" anything. Spam is generated by people motivated by
economics and made possible by the nature of the infrastructure. It
will not go away, but can be mitigated to varying degrees by changes
to the infrastructure.

Arguing that spam is a disease is the same as arguing that car
crashes are a disease.

Spam evolves.

...In the same way as car crashes do; in response to the infrastructure.
Bridges, highways, and dense urban areas have all caused car crashes to
'evolve'.

Torturing analogies does not make them stronger.

Spam foats around randomly untill it finds someone who will allow it to 
spread.

In the same way car crashes lurk with evil intent until some unsusecting
automotive administrator approaches a curve. In other words, it doesn't.

I'm belaboring this because the point is important. Disease eradication
efforts are very different than harm reduction efforts. Attacking spam
is a harm reduction problem.

Incorrect. Businesses recieve spam, and are made of people. People
buy stuff from spam.

ok, so they are a vector.
the point is, my system is not aimed at the buissiness user who must 
recieve orders and requests daily from strangers.
It is aimed at the majority of new internet users.
I don't see this "problem" as a reason why it will not work for them.

Please, feel free to peddle your approach to whomever you please. Other
approaches incrementally solve problems, work for businesses, do not 
require government intervention, approach solving bandwidth issues, 
and are not annoying.

The details are important. Everyone here responbed to the "address 
verification" performed by this list. This was a Challenge, and all of you 
Responded. C/R.

You wanted something more than it inconvinienced you to respond.

Sure. It is a fine mechanism to weed out subscription bombs, and 
has a nice side effect in that the utterly clueless usually can't 
seem to manage it. That it works for one purpose does not make it 
appropriate for pushing down to every initial email contact.
 
Yes, the government has the funds to make a plan into reality if that plan 
can realy solve the problem.

That governments (the "s" is important) have taxation authority does 
not automatically make them desirable entites in a given persuit, even
one with a social good. 

I'm not going to write yet another long essay on why regulation of 
email is a Really Bad Idea; that has been covered here enough times 
already.

-j

-- 
Jamie Lawrence                                        jal(_at_)jal(_dot_)org
Regime change begins at home.


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