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Re: [Asrg] Community proposal alert...Vendor Proposes Open E-mail Standards To Fight Spam

2003-05-02 17:40:14
From: "Eric D. Williams" <eric(_at_)infobro(_dot_)com>

Here is another for the pile and an interesting side-bar.

"pile" has some of the right connoations.

http://computerworld.com/newsletter/0,4902,80902,00.html?nlid=AM

Chasing links in that I ended up at the imfamous old stories, announcments
and press releases:
    
http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/privacy/story/0,10801,61475,00.html
    http://www.postiva.com/
    http://www.truste.com/about/TrustedSenderReleaseFINAL.html

The last says:

  } Every email sent by a Trusted Sender-certified company will
  } display a unique seal in the top right corner of the email message, by
  } which consumers can verify that the message is: 

and never mind minor complications including:

   - S/MIME, PGP, SMTP-AUTH, and STARTTLS already exist and are widely
      implemented.

   - It often does not make sense to talk about dislaying seals in
        top right corners of email messages.  (Hint: SMTP is not HTTP)

   - The list things the seal assures has nothing to do with not being
       spam, unless your definition of spam is the DMA's.

   - TrustE has earned is reputation as the guardian of whatever privacy
       policy an outfit wants to set, unless it wants to change it
       without warning, in which case that's ok too.

http://eprivacygroup.net/teos/TEOSwhitepaper1.pdf starting on page 14
defines as other than spam as any bulk mail, even if unsolicited, that
has more or less honest headers.  This notion is distinctly similar
to TrustE's notion of a web site that protects privace provided it
doesn't lie about violiating it.

That white paper has all kinds of cryptographic gunk that makes sense
only if you assume S/MIME, PGP, and SMTP-AUTH do not exist and that some
outfit should be paid to verify the identities of spammers.

In other words, it's a high class version of the so called spam
defenses from such as Stu Sjouwerman's Sunbelt Software.
See 
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=iHateSpam++group%3A*abuse.sightings
or
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22e-bla.%2Bcom%22+group%3A*abuse.sightings
and note that news.admin.net-abuse.sightings consists of copies
of spam.


Vernon Schryver    vjs(_at_)rhyolite(_dot_)com
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