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Re: [Asrg] Point of information...

2003-06-19 14:46:30
Barry,

I sent a similar note to the nanog two days ago, with no response.

I've no idea why this is of so little interest to so many people,
I think its actually rather cool, and getting the terminating
condition to converge to "soon" is worth working on.

I just don't see why this should be done on a list that assumes
that no temporal properties of spam systems exist.

Eric

Message-Id: <200306181530(_dot_)h5IFU1iC048040(_at_)nic-naa(_dot_)net>
To: Miles Fidelman <mfidelman(_at_)civicnet(_dot_)org>
cc: nanog(_at_)merit(_dot_)edu, brunner
Subject: Re: OT: question re. the Volume of unwanted email (fwd) 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:51:17 EDT."
             
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:30:01 -0400
From: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine <brunner(_at_)nic-naa(_dot_)net>

While the question (metrics for operators, backbone-to-retail, spam) is
current in the asrg list, the question is posed by (informally) by the
(outgoing) secretary of the ICANN Registrar's Constituency to a listserv
in the AOL playpen. The question is not current in the Registrar's
Constituency, not is it likely to be, IMHO.

There are several ways nanog'ers can take it, back to the AOL listserv,
or over the fence to the irtf/asrg playpen, or yawn.

There is one modality of spam that interests me technically, one that
Bill touched on in his note in the "rr style scanning" thread, and
Sean and others have touched on in the "use trojans" thread. Buffering
up hosts (acquired via technical means), and expending hosts (sending
until some terminal condition occurs) at a rate approximating the rate
of buffer-fill.

Anyone else interested drop me a line. Better still would be the peer
reviewed paper in the open literature that answers all the questions
I've thought of, and haven't thought of.

Eric

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