[Moderator: This discussion is more relevant to the BCP area, and so the
subject has been changed]
At 09:54 PM 8/23/2003, gep2(_at_)terabites(_dot_)com wrote:
....
> This entire problem would have been a non-event even without a
>consent framework system, if the dominant monopoly application vendor
>actually paid any attention whatsoever to the issue of security from
>a user perspective.
Actually, even if Outlook and IE and Windows were all "secure", I think
one can
fairly argue that there are 'enough' clueness users of AOL's insecure client
software that there would still be a problem. The consent framework, and
default to removing (or better, intercepting entirely) HTML and
attachments on a
per-sender, per-addressee basis, really ought to be done at the ISP or domain
provider level.
Within the consent framework - this can be done. The consent framework
allows any level of control beginning with the user. The user's consent
policies can be combined with the ISPs, and the ISPs with their upstream
provider, etc. In many cases the ISP may decide that their rules are more
important, and thus the ISPs consent rules will override the user's.
......
> A consent framework system is neither a necessary condition nor
>sufficient,
Nor is anything else, when you get right down to it. If there were an
obvious,
100% watertight, 100% effective solution to these problems we wouldn't
have to
have this list and be discussing all these different ideas... the problem
would
have been fixed a long time ago.
But the consent framework that I proposed is still a simple, cost-effective,
user-comprehensible, surprisingly effective system that will put a serious
dent
in BOTH spam AND malware, and moreover will do so in a way that is
incrementally
implementable and that offers a near-immediate payback to those who go to the
effort to put it in. That sounds to me like it covers a lot of the requisite
bases, and while avoiding nearly all the 'headaches' and implementation
barriers
that most of these other systems we've proposed are afflicted with.
.........
What you are suggesting is default consent rules to be used within the
consent framework. This is something that is best addressed within the BCP
area - BCP for mail administrators or users. If anyone would like to
volunteer, please stand up.
Yakov
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