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[Asrg] 2. Improving Blacklists and Reputation Services

2004-02-09 13:37:51
I would like to pose a question to the group. The IP address of the incoming MTA is the only sure thing that we possess today that cannot be easily spoofed (BGP attacks aside). There are numerous blacklist and reputation services out there that carry and store information about IP addresses. With an LMAP-type proposal like DRIP, this information can also be keyed by domain name.

All of this implies that reputation services such as blacklists will continue to exist. However, a major problem has been with these services is that they provide a binary yes/no answer. Many commercial ISPs would like to make the decisions themselves. Filters such as SpamAssasin would probably be better off basing data on a larger scale than a simple yes or no.

Taking all of this into account, I ask the following:
1. Is it feasible to develop a standard format and protocols for storing and quering data from reputation services? 2. Is it feasible for such format to be feature rich providing more data than a simple yes/no. Meng Wong of SPF proposed on his list a while back something like how many messages sent by MTA, how many were spam, etc., akin to what SenderBase does.
3. Can this be supplemented by accrediation formats and protocols?
4. Would any of this improve blacklists?
5. Would all of this reduce spam?

Feel free to forward this message to other lists, and NANAE.

Yakov
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Yakov Shafranovich / asrg <at> shaftek.org
SolidMatrix Technologies, Inc. / research <at> solidmatrix.com
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