I'm not thinking about counting packets outside of any counting that isn't
already being done. I'm talking about refinements.
It wouldn't be terribly hard to generate an accounting record like a
star(/stop in RADIUS for mail traffic.
I don't think it would be terribly hard to then do a lookup in, say, an ss7
database to check if the service limit had been reached and then to start
the overage counter.
Telcos/carriers/nsp/isp already do this. With IP.
The only way to then value the traffic and scale the product is to count
inter-carrier packets - which is already done for settlement peering in
voice and data/net application.
Convergence can be a wonderful thing if you open your mind and believe the
possibilities are within reach.
-M
-M
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Martin Hannigan
hannigan(_at_)verisign(_dot_)com
Verisign, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Levine <asrg(_at_)johnlevine(_dot_)com>
To: asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org <asrg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
CC: Hannigan, Martin <hannigan(_at_)verisign(_dot_)com>
Sent: Thu Dec 30 09:53:51 2004
Subject: Re: [Asrg] More 'pay per' foolishness
If anyone missed it, I'm not talking about "pay per" I'm talking
about inter-carrier bit billing broken out by protocol (SMTP) that
causes providers to know exactly what their SMTP costs are and they
can react accordingly with rate plans that accomodate hamburgers,
double cheesburgers, and Big Mac's with fries.
But counting the port 25 packets is only related in the most vague
sense to actual e-mail costs. I don't know anyone (other than vendors
who want to be the gatekeeper) who thinks there's any merit in
charging for mail that isn't spam, and I don't know very many who
think there's any merit in charging for e-mail in general other than
as an indirect way to stop spam.
If you're going to count the port 25 packets, it seems to me that a
much cheaper and equally effective approach would be to forget about
money and let networks set hourly or daily ingress quotas for their
peers. If someone on network A sends a huge blast of spam to network
B, they'll hit their daily limit at 12:05 AM, and no more mail over
that path until tomorrow. Then network A has to deal with the
complaints from its own users that their mail is falling on the floor.
Regards,
John Levine, johnl(_at_)taugh(_dot_)com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
http://www.taugh.com
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