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Re: [Asrg] Consensus Call - submission via posting (was Re: Iteration #3)

2010-02-09 07:03:29


--On 8 February 2010 13:05:06 -0500 Chris Lewis <clewis(_at_)nortel(_dot_)com> 
wrote:

Andrew Richards wrote:

What bugs me about [1] is that the whole message is being re-sent, but
we  seem to have established that the only thing a spam button will be
saying  is "This is spam/unwanted", so sending a report including the
original  email for basically a single bit of information seems
excessive.

In general, it isn't a "single bit of information", especially if you
consider that this mechanism will undoubtably used to feed outsourced
handlers who don't see your inbound mailstream at all.

A report to the mailstore operator need not be more than a few bits. I'd advocate at least two bits ("block" and "report"). But the value of the reports lies in crowd-sourcing them.

Think SpamCop for example.

I'm not sure why "exessive [volume]" is a particular concern.

It's a concern for users on low bandwidth connections. For example, my most frequent general complaints about spam volume come from people working in the field in countries with poor infrastructure. They want the most efficient access to mail that they can get. That means NOT downloading messages that they want to report as junk.

We're also seeing significant use of mobile devices for email - mostly iPhones at the moment. We expect to see that increasing.

Certainly the people with most incentive to report junk, are the ones with highest volumes of junk, and lowest bandwidth access.

For the
most part complaints are relatively rare, and this is only on that
fraction that doesn't already get zapped by the filters. We're
exceptional in the former (getting as much as 10-20% of all spam getting
past the filters being reported as full forwards), but nobody has ever
noticed the flow operationally.

If you posit 100% "hit the TiS button", 100% spam, and _no_ filtering
whatsoever, your outgoing from the user equals your incoming to the user.
But if you're in a situation like that, one wonders why you have mail
service or users at all.
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