ietf-asrg
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: [Asrg] What is Reputation Service

2011-01-25 21:08:13
On 1/25/11 5:49 PM, Dotzero wrote:

 The triggering question was whether one can make decisions directly
 based on SPF, DKIM or a combination of the two. Doug stated that one
 could not. My position is that you generally can (combinations) for
 domains that have good control over the mailstreams (particularly
 abused brands such as financial).

Mike,

Correction. To be clear, may I say one can use the position of stars in the sky when making decisions.

However, when making reasonable decisions about how well a provider is managing their mail resource, SPF pass or fail represents a poor measure. SPF pass offers little upon which an administrator can be judged. Malefactors are good at offering an SPF pass. Providers that handle messages where a customer's SPF record ends up failing also does not necessarily mean the administrator has done anything wrong either. Instead, one must use identifiers that accurately track resources being managed by the administrator when assessing their stewardship, not how clever their customers are in deciding which SPF records to publish. We both know customers are likely to get this wrong. Your statements about some strange need to use "-all" suffixes in these records does not help the situation either.

Secondly, DKIM can be replayed and will not necessarily indicate the intended recipient of the message. Blindly using DKIM as a basis to assert a signing domain is responsible for sending unsolicited bulk email may prove highly unfair when replayed by some malefactor. When mitigating SPAM, both SPF and DKIM represent poor and often misused tools. In addition, seldom are both DKIM and SPF required for message acceptance, which leaves either mechanism wide-open to abuse. A requirement that both mechanisms pass would reduce the integrity of email delivery, and make recipients unhappy about their lost messages.

Use of cryptographic authentication of SMTP clients supported by DANE resource records can operate within IPv6, and then offer truly effective tools able to fairly aid in the mitigation of SPAM. Use of third-party authorization would also permit policies able to cope with how email is normally used, without loosing track of the administrator's resource management.

-Doug


_______________________________________________
Asrg mailing list
Asrg(_at_)irtf(_dot_)org
http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg