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Re: [ietf-dkim] Delegating responsibility: a make vs. buy design decision

2006-08-22 18:55:21
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:06:08 -0700 Jim Fenton <fenton(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com> 
wrote:
Scott Kitterman wrote:

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:55:08 -0700 Michael Thomas <mike(_at_)mtcc(_dot_)com> 
wrote:
Scott Kitterman wrote:
OTOH, it seems to me that it's been said Ad Nauseum. Where feasible I 
agree it's better, but there are operational frictions that will impede 
this approach in some cases.
What I believe that we've discovered is that this isn't nearly simple as 
some people hoped. Doing as little up front as possible so that you can get 
operational experience is almost certainly better than guessing -- 
especially when the guessing wrong is a likely outcome. In this particular 
case, I dooubt there will be harm because receivers will always have an 
incentive to make better decisions (and hence the desire to upgrade).
I disagree. What I think we've discovered that there is no additional 
complexity for signers or authors. It is, in fact, simpler for signers.

With the need to choose the appropriate subdomain depending on which 
author-domain submitted the message to the signer, I think the complexity 
for signers is now about the same as for key delegation, assuming that the 
signer uses the same public key for all of its customers.  About the only 
thing that changes from author-domain to author-domain is the i= address 
and the d= domain.

As I said in the previous message I don't think it's necessarily a 
sub-domain per customer.

I think the simplicity for the designated signer approach is for the author 
domain.  All that's needed is the ability to publish a TXT record with an 
underscored domain name in their DNS.  These are the same DNS requirements 
that exist for DKIM base.  I think it's both fair to small author domains 
and an aid to deployability to provide this kind of mechanism.

I'm not seeing any significant downside to it that isn't equally a problem 
for the NS delegation/operator signs first party for the author approach.

Scott K
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