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RE: [ietf-dkim] Mailing lists as 2822-Sender

2007-12-03 09:28:18
A mailing list is an original mail object that is comprised of vetted
submitted material much like a newspaper. It should take submitted
material, empty the accompanied envelope and remail using a fresh clean
envelope with new headers.
Thanks, 


Bill Oxley
Messaging Engineer
Cox Communications
404-847-6397

-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-dkim-bounces(_at_)mipassoc(_dot_)org
[mailto:ietf-dkim-bounces(_at_)mipassoc(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of Dave Crocker
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 10:54 AM
To: ietf-dkim(_at_)mipassoc(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] Mailing lists as 2822-Sender



John Levine wrote:
RFC 2822 section 3.6.2 describes originator fields.  By my reading it
is pretty clear that a list should add a Sender: field with the list's
name since it's the list that's sending the mail.  

+1.

A mailing list agent often and reasonably changes a message in
substantial 
ways.  Even if a particular agent does not make changes (other than 
re-posting) it is, in fact, re-posting.  That makes the mailing list
agent the 
address that is appropriate for the rfc2822.Sender field.


Section 3.6.6 describes resent headers.  One could make a plausible
argument that a list should add a Resent-Sender: rather than a Sender:
but it's reasonable to do it either way.

My own feeling is that resent headers were a good idea that have proved
far 
more problematic that beneficial. One could make a very plausible
argument for 
deprecating them...

ps. Having this list discuss Sender-ID seems a bit odd.  Worse is the
idea 
that Sender ID or DKIM or any adjunct protocol enhancement could be
viewed as 
modifying anything as basic as the content of rfc2822 Originator
fields...
-- 

   Dave Crocker
   Brandenburg InternetWorking
   bbiw.net

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