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Re: [ietf-dkim] Progressing ADSP (Was: Re: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-dkim-ssp-06 (fwd))

2008-09-20 12:38:57

On Sep 20, 2008, at 1:16 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote:


Thanks John,

So this means that we're not taking on board the various
suggestions in Doug's draft since they didn't garner
any real support. I think that's correct, but just in
case - if there's a whole bunch of folks out there who
agree with Doug's draft so much that they think we
should not progress ADSP - now's your last chance
(in the WG) to say so.

I'm not interested in Doug's concerns. I don't think we
should progress ADSP, though, because the problem it's
intended to solve was never defined.

Also, if ADSP were deployed it would have no positive
effect on the problem of phishing (the supposed goal) -
and may even make that problem worse.

Yet it will make delivery of legitimate email marginally
less reliable.

It damages legitimate use of email, yet the supposed
benefits that should outweigh that damage are extremely
unlikely to happen in real world deployment. Overall
it's going to be harmful to the global email system.

Cheers,
   Steve




It might be no harm if folks who do think ADSP should
go ahead would respond to this saying so. I'm sure that
Doug will (quite reasonably) bring up his concerns again
at IETF LC, so being crystal clear here might be no
harm.

I'll give folks the weekend to check that and for any
new typos then send the publication request to Pasi.

Thanks all,
Stephen.

John L wrote:
This addresses the various last call comments.  The changes are all  
minor
editorial ones, nothing large.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl(_at_)iecc(_dot_)com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet 
 
for Dummies",
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex- 
Mayor
"More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:17:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: IETF I-D Submission Tool <idsubmission(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
To: standards(_at_)taugh(_dot_)com

A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-dkim-ssp-06.txt has been  
successfuly submitted by John Levine and posted to the IETF  
repository.

Filename:     draft-ietf-dkim-ssp
Revision:     06
Title:                DKIM Author Domain Signing Practices (ADSP)
Creation_date:        2008-09-19
WG ID:                dkim
Number_of_pages: 21

Abstract:
DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) defines a domain-level
authentication framework for email to permit verification of the
source and contents of messages.  This document specifies an adjunct
mechanism to aid in assessing messages that do not contain a DKIM
signature for the domain used in the author's address.  It defines a
record that can advertise whether a domain signs its outgoing mail,
and how other hosts can access that record.



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