Re: Wild card MXes
2004-05-26 16:07:14
John R Levine wrote:
I also disagree with the assertion that clients on dsl/cable modems
should not be sending direct email. What they should not being doing
is sending direct email as bigisp.com (subject to the policy of the
ISP).
That depends both on the policy of the ISP and whether it's a static or
DHCP address. I don't think you'll find much support for direct sending
from DHCP addresses any more.
John, I disagree with your claim, and agree with Andy's. If the big 10 ISPs
decided together that DHCP/PPP dynamic address should not send mail
directly, they could block port 25 outgoing at the edge, only allowing
connections to their own servers. On the other hand, they have no way,
currently, to control the use of their domain by hosts in their IP space. We
can provide that.
I run a mail server on exactly such a connection. All of the HELO and MAIL
FROM lines use my domain, not my ISP's. I am currently forced to route my
outgoing mail through my provider's smarthost because one major provider
doesn't accept mail from DHCP hosts. Unfortunately, that means that my
outbound mail to many other domains is rejected every time said smarthost
gets on a widely-used blacklist. Unless I were to set up transport routing
through the smarthost for that one provider, and direct for everywhere else,
I get rejected messages either way. And telling me to pay a separate email
provider is not a serious response, unless you happen to be in the email
provider business.
Bottom line is that I need some way to authenticate my server as my domain,
to allow some measure of accountability and the ability to build reputation,
in whatever form. If my ISP is somewhat off the hook for my server's
actions, they would quite likely not see a need to go further in blocking
outbound connections to protect their own reputation.
Philip Miller
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