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Re: Drive Towards Consensus [was Re: On Extensibility in MARID Records]

2004-06-21 16:50:37


On Jun 21, 2004, at 2:41 PM, Jonathan Gardner wrote:
I believe that rate limiting should be beyond the scope of Sender ID. For
one, it is better implemented on the sending MTA side. This would be an
implementation detail for the MTA, and requires no external knowledge to
either example1.com or any receiving MTA.

If the receiving MTA wants to know if this small business sends at a rate consistent with a legitimate small business or at a rate consistent with a spammer, then the receiving MTA will want to know the rates. They will also want to know if the sending MTA accredited as enforcing sending limits; this is why you need to know things about both the channel and the sender where the sender and the channel are in different domains. In many cases, they will be in separate domains; there are millions of domains that do not run their own MTAs.

The other possibility is to implement rate limiting on the receiving MTA's end. But how can the receiving MTA know how many email messages were sent
to other MTAs? How can a receiving MTA trust the number that other MTAs
report to it? These difficulties would greatly complicate Sender ID, and so
should be external to Sender ID.

The rate limiting needs to occur on the sending side, but the receiver needs to know what it is.

It is true that we don't at this moment know the specifics of how the accreditation, reputation, and rate limiting will work. But these areas are emerging; the fact that we don't have a spec in hand is not a reason to dismiss the need for them. If anything it's an argument for flexibility.

Margaret


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