On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
This is the second first time post on this thread.
And therefore the second (actually the fourth[0]) vote from a person who
feels more strongly about the licensing than about any other issue so far
raised. This should be putting up serious warning flags, especially as
regards consensus within the working group.
Licensing issues are being dealt with, your paranoias are irrelevant,
take it to the IETF IPR forum.
This is a specific discussion of a particular piece of alleged IPR with
respect to a specific technology being discussed in this working group. My
reading of RFC3669 therefore makes it our problem to discuss.
The IPR forum is appropriate for generic discussion of IPR within the
IETF. It would be strongly inappropriate for this discussion, since this
is a specific, and not a generic IPR issue.
The opinions of these posters are clearly stated and valid, and should not
be swept under the carpet like this.[1]
S.
[0] But who's counting?
[1] Deja vu.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ietf-mxcomp(_at_)mail(_dot_)imc(_dot_)org
[mailto:owner-ietf-mxcomp(_at_)mail(_dot_)imc(_dot_)org]On Behalf Of Koen
Martens
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 5:57 AM
To: IETF MARID WG
Subject: Licensing issues
I'm frankly quite worried about the way microsoft is involved in all
this. To be honest, if the end of your efforts are something that even
hints at stuff I have to hire an attorney for to figure out in
connection with microsoft, I will not even consider the protocol
itself for me and my customers. Mind you, I don't know the facts
simply because I'm not a lawyer. I don't have the expertise to root
around in legal documents and international law to see what microsoft
claims, and what it will mean for me.
I hope this concern of mine is not waived by blaming it on my emotions
or anything. I'm just being practical here. I don't have the legal
expertise to figure out what microsoft has licensed and what not, and
what I can do without being afraid of the Wrath of the Giant.
I liked good old SPF-Classic, and I will continue to support this,
both by publishing, checking & writing code. I will never ever
contribute even half a line of code on something if there is a chance
that half a line of code ends up being owned by Microsoft.
Ok, I've spoken up. I will go back to lurking now. Thanks for your
time,
Koen Martens
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