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RE: What Meng said

2004-08-11 09:49:30

Andy said, quoting Meng: 
 [11:05:42] <mengwong> if submitter is not present, we fall back to 
mail-from. people are missing this.

From both my reading of the docs, and what I believe was the intent of
the docs, this is wrong.
If submitter is missing, one needs to get the PRA from the data of the
message.  (Of course, with submitter one must still verify that
submitter == PRA and reject the message otherwise.)

I think that Meng may be referring to the text that states that at some
date in the future (which hasn't been specified yet), one may treat the
absence of submitter as submitter == mail-from.  However, this can only
occur after very wide-spread adoption of submitter-aware MTAs, and after
another standards action.

-- jimbo

Internet commerce will never really take off until you can buy something
online without getting spammed by the vendor.


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[mailto:owner-ietf-mxcomp(_at_)mail(_dot_)imc(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of Andrew 
Newton
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Subject: What Meng said


In rereading the Jabber logs and reading the recent threads on 
SUBMITTER, I'd like to point everyone to a simple sentence Meng wrote 
in the Jabber session:  
http://www.xmpp.org/ietf-logs/marid(_at_)ietf(_dot_)xmpp(_dot_)org/2004-08-04.html


In defense of "people", I reread marid-submitter and marid-core this 
morning and could not find the place where this was stated.  However, 
this statement is significant.  I'm not saying it is a good or bad 
idea, but it profoundly changes how SUBMITTER is used, the nexus of 
SUBMITTER and PRA, and even the semantics of the RR version identifier.

-andy



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