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RE: IAB document

2001-12-07 14:41:13


#   (2.2) IP-layer communications: For an OPES framework standardized in
#   the IETF, the OPES intermediary must be explicitly addressed at the
#   IP layer by the end user.

The above clause in draft-iab-opes-01.txt, taken literally as I
understand it,
constrains that only single-intermediary content processing pipeline
will be
possible under OPES.  E.g. it'll be impossible to do filtering like:

   server | language_translation | virus_scan | client

  (or: server | insert_image | dither_image_for_viewing_device | client)

where the multiple intermediaries run on different IP hosts.

It's hard to image one would have to resort to some unscaleable hacks
like:

  server | language_translation | \
  server | virus_scan | client

in order to work around the constraint.

Q1, to IAB:
   Would the IAB shed some light on the benefits of
   stipulating n=1 (as in an n-intermediary OPES content
   pipeline), such that they outweigh the cost of depriving
   content providers and consumers the advantages that n>=1
   offers, as exemplified in the use cases above? 

Q2, to IAB & all:
   Can the "explicit addressing at the IP layer by the end user,"
   which I take it for the need of the end user's cognizance of
   the remote IP address in the end_user-intermediary socket
   connection, be critically meaningful for OPES practitioners
   anyway in the face of NAT (which, incidentally, was yet
   another IETF whipping boy)? 
 
Thanks,

Joe Hui
Digital Island, a Cable & Wireless company
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-----Original Message-----
From: Condry, Michael W. [mailto:condry(_at_)intel(_dot_)com]
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 12:50 PM
To: ietf-openproxy(_at_)imc(_dot_)org
Cc: Patrik Fältström; ned.freed-mrochek.com; Ellison Carl M
Subject: IAB document


OPES followers.

Understanding the issues in the IAB document is THE critical 
goal of the 
upcoming OPES meeting in Salt Lake City.

We all wish to go forward and "become official" and I believe we need 
to  understand the issues and work though them in our charter 
and plans. 
There are many requirements that apply outside of OPES that 
were stimulated 
because of the discussions around OPES. Topics impacting OPES 
and other 
areas will be discussed during the Thursday night plenary. In 
out meeting 
we are  focusing on OPES, these concerns, and how we will 
address time.

Certainly, we will not solve all the problems (particularly 
security ones) 
in the meeting but we will identify the suitable requirements 
and work 
items for us to meet.

See you all there.

Michael



Michael W. Condry
Director,  Network Edge Technology


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