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RE: Queries on Message/rfc822, Compressed-Data.

2003-04-03 12:59:38
Chris:

I assigned:

  id-eit-compressedData      OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { id-eit 7 }

Russ


At 11:40 PM 4/2/2003 -0500, Bonatti, Chris wrote:
I'll update the draft to assign the next available value.
 
Chris
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Blake Ramsdell [mailto:blake(_at_)brutesquadlabs(_dot_)com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 20:09
To: 'Bonatti, Chris'; 'Pandey, Arun'; 'Russ Housley'
Cc: ietf-smime(_at_)imc(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: Queries on Message/rfc822, Compressed-Data.

Since RFC3274 isn't going to be updated anytime soon, I would recommend that the EIT value be placed in the x400transport draft.
 
Blake
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ietf-smime(_at_)mail(_dot_)imc(_dot_)org [mailto:owner-ietf-smime(_at_)mail(_dot_)imc(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of Bonatti, Chris
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 3:17 PM
To: 'Pandey, Arun'; 'Russ Housley'
Cc: ietf-smime(_at_)imc(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: Queries on Message/rfc822, Compressed-Data.

Yes, this probably makes sense.
 
I overlooked this because compressed-data was a draft when x400transport was drafted.  Since compressed-data is not in 2633bis it would probably make more sense to define the EIT for this in RFC 3274.  However, there is also benefit to all the X.400 stuff being here.  I suppose I would favor the latter.
 
Chris
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ietf-smime(_at_)mail(_dot_)imc(_dot_)org [mailto:owner-ietf-smime(_at_)mail(_dot_)imc(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of Pandey, Arun
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 06:55
To: 'Russ Housley'
Cc: ietf-smime(_at_)imc(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: Queries on Message/rfc822, Compressed-Data.

 
Hi Russ,
 
As per draft-ietf-smime-x400transport-05.txt to convey information about the contained content
of an S/MIME message in an X.400 transport environment EITs are used.
 
Section 2.5 (2.5.1 to 2.5.6) of draft-ietf-smime-x400transport-05.txt define the EITs for:
1. Enveloped Data
2. Signed Data
3. Certificate Management
4. Signed Receipt
5. Enveloped X.400
6. Signed X.400
 
These match with the corresponding EITs defined in http://www.imc.org/ietf-smime/sm-oid.asn
-- X.400 Encoded Information Types (EIT) for S/MIME objects
id-eit-envelopedData OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { id-eit 1 }
id-eit-signedData OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { id-eit 2 }
id-eit-certManagement OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { id-eit 3 }
id-eit-signedReceipt OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { id-eit 4 }
id-eit-envelopedx400 OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { id-eit 5 }
id-eit-signedx400 OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { id-eit 6 }
 
I am unable to find the corresponding EIT definition for the smime-type parameter
'compressed-data'(CompressedData), that has been newly introduced in the 'draft-ietf-smime-
rfc2633bis-03.txt'.
 
Best Regards
Arun Pandey
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Russ Housley [mailto:housley(_at_)vigilsec(_dot_)com]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:33 AM
To: Pandey, Arun
Cc: ietf-smime(_at_)imc(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Queries on Message/rfc822, Compressed-Data.

These are both discussed in the most recent MSG draft.
Please see draft-ietf-smime-rfc2633bis-03.txt.

Russ

At 03:40 PM 3/26/2003 +0530, Pandey, Arun wrote:

Hi,

I had the following 2 queries. Would appreciate a response on these if possible:

1. Going  through the S/MIME mail archive I find a discussion on the use of message types like
    message/rfc822, message/partial etc. that could be used to wrap a protected message (MIME
    content + RFC822 Headers). Also as per MOM of the 54th IETF meeting it seems that
    message/rfc822 message type has been finalized for this purpose.

    My question is how should one distinguish such a message ( A protected message wrapped
    in message/rfc822) from a forwarded message which also has a message type of
    message/rfc822 and can also contain a non protected message? Is an example message of
    type message/rfc822 containing a protected message available for reference?

2. The latest draft 'S/MIME Version 3.1 Message Specification' (draft-ietf-smime-rfc2633bis-03.txt)
    mentions a new S/MIME type "compressed-data". However for this new S/MIME type no
    corresponding EIT has been defined in the S/MIME TRANSPORT draft. Where would one be
    able to find the corresponding EIT for the same?

Best Regards
Arun Pandey
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