Re: "Header Reordering", yet again

On Tue, 31 May 2005 09:58:58 EDT, Hector Santos said:

> Why would a downlink software assume the headers are or could be out of
> order?  and why would it assume mediocrity exist or even allow it to be
> used?    I mean, if a piece of software was doing this,  then you go to the
> developer and shame them for screwing things up.  If they don't bother to
> fix it, then you dump it and get something else.  That's how it usually
> works.
If (hypothetically - I've not caught either actually *doing* this) we found a
case where Sendmail or Exchange was doing this, you would have to:

a) Get the vendor to fix it.
b) Wait for sites to actually *install* the update.  Note that the mail I'm
replying to passed through a host claiming: (8.12.11/8.12.9).  Sendmail 8.12.11
came out 2004/01/18 - and their .cf file is against .9, which dates to 
2003/03/29

Now if the site that's *hosting* this list (so we're presumably "preaching to
the choir" at that point) hasn't installed any of these Sendmails:

8.13.4/8.13.4   2005/03/27
8.13.3/8.13.3   2005/01/11
8.13.2/8.13.2   2004/12/15
8.13.1/8.13.1   2004/07/30
8.13.0/8.13.0   2004/06/20
8.12.11/8.12.11 2004/01/18
8.12.10/8.12.10 2003/09/24 (Released: 2003/09/17)
8.12.9/8.12.9   2003/03/29

Why do you expect the unwashed heathen masses to upgrade anytime soon?

I'm told that there's still some Sendmail 5.65 boxes occasionally spotted on
the open Internet.  Even *this year* I've personally seen 3 postings on NANOG 
from
somebody still running 8.6.9 (8.6.10 came out 1995/02/10).

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