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Re: "Header Reordering", yet again

2005-05-31 09:03:05
On Tue, 31 May 2005 09:58:58 EDT, Hector Santos said:

Why would a downlink software assume the headers are or could be out of
order?  and why would it assume mediocrity exist or even allow it to be
used?    I mean, if a piece of software was doing this,  then you go to the
developer and shame them for screwing things up.  If they don't bother to
fix it, then you dump it and get something else.  That's how it usually

If (hypothetically - I've not caught either actually *doing* this) we found a
case where Sendmail or Exchange was doing this, you would have to:

a) Get the vendor to fix it.
b) Wait for sites to actually *install* the update.  Note that the mail I'm
replying to passed through a host claiming: (8.12.11/8.12.9).  Sendmail 8.12.11
came out 2004/01/18 - and their .cf file is against .9, which dates to 

Now if the site that's *hosting* this list (so we're presumably "preaching to
the choir" at that point) hasn't installed any of these Sendmails:

8.13.4/8.13.4   2005/03/27
8.13.3/8.13.3   2005/01/11
8.13.2/8.13.2   2004/12/15
8.13.1/8.13.1   2004/07/30
8.13.0/8.13.0   2004/06/20
8.12.11/8.12.11 2004/01/18
8.12.10/8.12.10 2003/09/24 (Released: 2003/09/17)
8.12.9/8.12.9   2003/03/29

Why do you expect the unwashed heathen masses to upgrade anytime soon?

I'm told that there's still some Sendmail 5.65 boxes occasionally spotted on
the open Internet.  Even *this year* I've personally seen 3 postings on NANOG 
somebody still running 8.6.9 (8.6.10 came out 1995/02/10).

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