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RE: Who cares about ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org, anyway? (was Re: ipv6 adoption....)

2001-11-14 15:40:04
John W Noerenberg II <jwn2(_at_)qualcomm(_dot_)com> wrote:

At 5:46 PM +0000 11/14/01, Lloyd Wood wrote:

since when did the wider IETF community (if, indeed, there is such a
thing) read ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org?

One might get a sense of this by looking at the number of subscribers 
to ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org vs. the number of people who show up at IETF 
meetings.

Maybe you should consider the fact that some people:
 - don't have time to attend due to work or other activities.
 - aren't in a position to attend (finance, disabilities, distance).
and many other factors?

Not everybody is company funded... a 'great' but sorry note is for
example the postponement of FreeBSD 5.0....
which should have been launched around now... but is postponed untill
next year as 'some companies withdrew financial support' amongst
others...
meaning that some developers couldn't simply make time for another
project because they didn't get payed for it...
Ergo.... no money -> no work for good projects alongside your job (which
earns you actual bread on your plate).... no money -> no ietf
meetings...

Quoting from the ietf site: "The registration fee is USD$425.00 if
received by the..." not even taking care for traveling and hotel
expenses and other costs which come along...
Oee... students can get in for USD$150... let's see that's about 372,53
guilders which last time I checked some students can only just pay their
rent for their room with here in holland... And then I am not even
taking into point traveling costs though with recent events those have
plummeted quite some...
And what about this poor <insert random '3rd' world country> person who
does have great ideas.. should he spend some 10 years of salary to
attend one ietf meeting?
Communicating by email is much cheaper then don't you think?

Greets,
 Jeroen



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